Official Preseason Week 2 Packers vs Patriots Meaningless Game Day Thread

[Joemailman]

Looks like Love and the starters will play except for Bakhtiari.

#3 RB spot still open. Emanuel Wilson made a big splash last week but has to show he can handle special teams and pass pro. Patrick Taylor is old reliable.

#6 WR spot (if there is one) likely between Melton and Heath. Melton has been getting more special teams snaps but Heath has done a lot of good things. DuBose has been coming on.

Packers have 6 OL spots locked up. Rasheed Walker probably a good bet. So you have Rhyan, Newman, Hanson, Caleb Jones (injured), Telfort, Schneider and Tenuta (injured) probably fighting for 2 spots.

Austin Allen has a shot at showing he can be the #4 TE. Special teams probably the key.

At QB I expect we'll see more of McGough than we saw last week.

On DL Jonathan Ford has been making a strong push for #6 DL spot (if there is one).

With Campbell out, McDuffie should get a lot of playing time. Carpenter and Eric Wilson probably battling for #4 spot.

At EDGE Justin Hollins and Brenton Cox may be battling for 1 spot.

Safety still wide open opposite Savage. Anthony Johnson has been coming on.

At CB, Carrington Valentine continues to be the talk of camp. Innis Gaines and Shemar Jean-Charles may be competing for backup nickel spot.

Anders Carlson will calm a lot of fans nerves if he kicks well tonight. Daniel Whelan needs a huge game if he is to beat out O'Donnell.

[CaptainKickass]

Obligatory game day post.

[bobblehead]

Who starts at LT is my question. If its Yosh, I don't believe Gutes when he says Bak is not on the market. If its Walker then I believe him. With Newman going full David Caruso mode I don't like the depth as much as I thought I did coming into camp. Its still 6 starters deep, but some big questions pop up after those 6. Really want Walker to be for real. He has more upside than Jones or others. If anyone goes down I expect Yosh to play RT and Tom to move to said spot (unless LT, then Yosh just steps in).

Is Valentine so good that the move of Douglas can happen sooner than I expected? The defense seems so stacked, but will they decide they can't stop the run once games count?

Every year I read about WR making plays in camp, only to have them disappear in season. Is this crew for real? Will Love be good enough to get them the ball?

Ah, the smell of football is in the air.

[run pMc]

Valentine is good in man coverage and can press. His zone skills are iffy, he's not instinctive in zone but that might come.
He's going to get snaps in preseason with Jaire and Rasul likely not playing much/at all, and until Stokes comes back he's the #4 corner so you could easily see him in dime.
He's not better than Rasul.

Rasul is big and smart but he's not fast/quick. He might be ok as a safety, but I don't know how quickly or easily the safety role translates from CB. You're asking him to play out of position, and I'd argue CB is a more valueable position than S, so you're devaluing him and what he's probably best at. Barry basically said (he could be lying) that Rasul was NOT being considered at safety.

Jaire would be great in the slot, and I think he could play a good number of snaps there if the opposing top WR plays there mostly. The caveat to that is that he'd be a risk in the slot on early/run downs because he's on the small side and would be an easy target to run at. A pulling guard would be trouble for Jaire, and he's had a few injuries. My guess is they prefer to have him be like Richard Sherman once was where he'd basically shut down a half/third of the field from the QB's reads.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Seriously, where the fuck is Harrell? Dude’s been MIA all summer. Must be busy “chasing cars”? Harrell, if you’re reading this, “just know that things will never change for us at all.”

[Joemailman]

Who starts at LT is my question. If its Yosh, I don't believe Gutes when he says Bak is not on the market. If its Walker then I believe him. With Newman going full David Caruso mode I don't like the depth as much as I thought I did coming into camp. Its still 6 starters deep, but some big questions pop up after those 6. Really want Walker to be for real. He has more upside than Jones or others. If anyone goes down I expect Yosh to play RT and Tom to move to said spot (unless LT, then Yosh just steps in).

Is Valentine so good that the move of Douglas can happen sooner than I expected? The defense seems so stacked, but will they decide they can't stop the run once games count?

Every year I read about WR making plays in camp, only to have them disappear in season. Is this crew for real? Will Love be good enough to get them the ball?

Ah, the smell of football is in the air.

Gute was quite clear about Bakh not being on the market. I.think he was basically saying to Rodgers and the Jets "Fuck you. Find your own left tackle". I think the depth on the OL is really good. They have 6 starting caliber guys. Most teams don't have 5. And they have some other guys who wouldn't be overwhelmed.

Valentine is good, but why are people convinced Rasul can play safety? Has he ever played safety?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Valentine is good in man coverage and can press. His zone skills are iffy, he's not instinctive in zone but that might come.
He's going to get snaps in preseason with Jaire and Rasul likely not playing much/at all, and until Stokes comes back he's the #4 corner so you could easily see him in dime.
He's not better than Rasul.

Rasul is big and smart but he's not fast/quick. He might be ok as a safety, but I don't know how quickly or easily the safety role translates from CB. You're asking him to play out of position, and I'd argue CB is a more valueable position than S, so you're devaluing him and what he's probably best at. Barry basically said (he could be lying) that Rasul was NOT being considered at safety.

Jaire would be great in the slot, and I think he could play a good number of snaps there if the opposing top WR plays there mostly. The caveat to that is that he'd be a risk in the slot on early/run downs because he's on the small side and would be an easy target to run at. A pulling guard would be trouble for Jaire, and he's had a few injuries. My guess is they prefer to have him be like Richard Sherman once was where he'd basically shut down a half/third of the field from the QB's reads.

Can’t have too many good corners, ain’t that Dom Capers said?

I am failing to grasp the hypes. J-Alex is the only shutdown corner on the team. The rest are exploitable. Douglas is overrated - looks like a cover2/cover3 type corner. Nixon looks like a poor man’s Chandon Sullivan. Stokes is fast but can’t cover.

Nixon at safety? I do that on the latest version of Madden. Current 6-6 online cos Love ain’t Butte .

[MadScientist]

That was a shitty snap by Meyers

[red]

cut meyer

what an absolutely horrible fucking pic by gute

complete fucking shit

[Joemailman]

MLF talks about getting the best 5 on the field. Can he really say that includes Myers?

[ThunderDan]

Good check down to Musgrave.

[red]

MLF talks about getting the best 5 on the field. Can he really say that includes Myers?

well, he also just got his fat ass shoved 10 yards straight back on that run so i say no

[ThunderDan]

Great catch by Dobbs.

[ThunderDan]

Myers pushes the nose back on that run. So inconsistent.

[red]

doubs with a nice catch on a pass rodgers never would have thrown because doubs had a guy on him and was therefor "covered"

[ThunderDan]

Bad throw.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Love is the new captain check down.

[Joemailman]

Receivers not getting separation. Patriots defense is good.

[ThunderDan]

Who is 47?

[MadScientist]

First team offense not looking good against a team that is prepared for them.