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    Bahktiari is, when available, still a very good LT

    Turf will ALWAYS be an issue for him.

    10 games of Bahktiari is better than zero.

    10 games for $40M is a LOT

    I don't think he's alone in hating turf. The big linemen don't like it, it's hard on the joints, and those who get tackled and landing on it also say it's like concrete. Players who wear molded cleats (mostly QBs and kickers IIRC) can get their feet stuck in it and get injured (see: Rodgers, Aaron) as well. Some of the smaller/quicker players like it because they can really cut and move fast on it, but that's about it. If pro soccer players won't play on it, I'm not sure why football players have to. The main reason stadiums have it is so they have a Taylor Swift concert on it two days before the game and not worry about it being trashed and trampled.

    I don't think this is a big drama or distraction. The team is just working with Bahktiari's knee as much as they can so he plays as much as he can. I think if there was a playoff game on turf he'd give it a go, but his knee might not react well in the days/weeks following that game.
    Given they reworked his contract a bit and paid out a chunk of his salary already means they want him dressing for GB and protecting Love's blindside... for this year. I don't know if he is on the roster next year, especially if they can get something from Rasheed Walker or another OT.

    I'm not sure what a team is going to give you for an aging LT who might be able to play the majority of your season. Jets play on turf, I don't think he'd want to play there tbh, even with his buddy Rodgers.

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    Packers coach Matt LaFleur said David Bakhtiari had swelling in his knee leading up to Sunday's game.

    "His knee is injured," LaFleur said.

    LaFleur does not believe that Bakhtiari's absence was related to turf and that he wouldn't have played if the game was on grass, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
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    Packers coach Matt LaFleur said David Bakhtiari had swelling in his knee leading up to Sunday's game.

    "His knee is injured," LaFleur said.

    LaFleur does not believe that Bakhtiari's absence was related to turf and that he wouldn't have played if the game was on grass, either.
    He has swelling I’m sure every week. His knee is jacked. I’ll bet the turf played a role. He’s already a gigantic injury risk. No need to make it worse by playing on turf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
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    Packers coach Matt LaFleur said David Bakhtiari had swelling in his knee leading up to Sunday's game.

    "His knee is injured," LaFleur said.

    LaFleur does not believe that Bakhtiari's absence was related to turf and that he wouldn't have played if the game was on grass, either.

    Now here is the scripted response I would have expected right after the game. He needed an extra
    Day to come up with it. Back should retire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Now here is the scripted response I would have expected right after the game. He needed an extra
    Day to come up with it. Back should retire
    If he retires, I believe we still have to pay him. Better to keep him on The roster and play him when available. Cut him next year if he doesn’t retire on his own, which is what will probably happen.

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    Retire and pay back the prorated part of his signing bonus….. nah. Next year is the first time we have a real chance to cut him. And that’s what will happen.

    He’s still good though. And it keeps wear and tear off of Rasheed.
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    From what I've read, even if we hound Bakh for the prorated part of the signing bonus after retirement, that wouldn't get credited back to our salary cap.

    It seems to be the custom when someone retires to let them keep the whole of their signing bonus, even though it's written in the agreements that a team can try to claw back the prorated portion. If that won't affect our salary cap, then the stank it puts on our reputation for free agents and extensions isn't worth the Monopoly Money.
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    It’s a strange precedent…

    What about weather. Maybe I don’t like playing on rainy or snowy days. Or when it’s not/humid.

    Or short weeks.

    Or Thursdays.

    I think it’s terrible on NFL for turf fields - but this is a mess waiting to happen imo.

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    There's a lot of speculation about insane things here. Is there any reason to think he didn't want to play on turf, or that he's only going to play every other game, or any of the other wild possibilities here? Maybe he really just tweaked it. Who knows. I feel like there is a lot of assuming the worst in folks in here. Bak is an all-world .001% guy in the general population aka a very impressive person in all facets of life. I highly doubt he would mail it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    There's a lot of speculation about insane things here. Is there any reason to think he didn't want to play on turf, or that he's only going to play every other game, or any of the other wild possibilities here? Maybe he really just tweaked it. Who knows. I feel like there is a lot of assuming the worst in folks in here. Bak is an all-world .001% guy in the general population aka a very impressive person in all facets of life. I highly doubt he would mail it in.
    Facts in this situation:

    Bakh has a knee that kept him out for a whole season and then when he tried to come back a year later was down again until the start of the next season (18 months post injury)

    Even after 18 months he was still having issues practicing and consistently playing on the knee

    Even now, 2.5 years since the injury, he is having flare ups on the knee that prevent him from practicing and sometimes playing




    Bakh has spent the last several years panning for change in the NFLs surfaces, calling for grass fields across the board. He claims synthetic surfaces cause injury.




    What types of things are far fetched exaggerations or assumptions in this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    There's a lot of speculation about insane things here. Is there any reason to think he didn't want to play on turf, or that he's only going to play every other game, or any of the other wild possibilities here? Maybe he really just tweaked it. Who knows. I feel like there is a lot of assuming the worst in folks in here. Bak is an all-world .001% guy in the general population aka a very impressive person in all facets of life. I highly doubt he would mail it in.
    Seriously? Other than the fact he has been screaming it at the top of his lungs for 2 years, no....there is nothing else to suggest it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    There's a lot of speculation about insane things here. Is there any reason to think he didn't want to play on turf, or that he's only going to play every other game, or any of the other wild possibilities here? Maybe he really just tweaked it. Who knows. I feel like there is a lot of assuming the worst in folks in here. Bak is an all-world .001% guy in the general population aka a very impressive person in all facets of life. I highly doubt he would mail it in.

    I think you are putting your head in the sand and closing your eyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I think you are putting your head in the sand and closing your eyes
    Maybe, but is one game enough data to go off of yet? I really don't think so. People are fabricating a pattern that doesn't exist at this point. The reality is we don't know. Once there's a pattern, then we have something to go off one. A single game is not a pattern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Maybe, but is one game enough data to go off of yet? I really don't think so. People are fabricating a pattern that doesn't exist at this point. The reality is we don't know. Once there's a pattern, then we have something to go off one. A single game is not a pattern.
    Arthroscopic surgery and IR. We can be pretty sure this wasn't drama now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    Arthroscopic surgery and IR. We can be pretty sure this wasn't drama now.
    Even if he didn’t want to play on turf with an iffy knee, that’s not drama imo. Bretsky likes to create drama
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    But he played 2 out of 3 games on turf last year? Not liking something and thinking it's wrong is quite different than not showing up and doing your job. Historically, he has played on turf despite not liking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    But he played 2 out of 3 games on turf last year? Not liking something and thinking it's wrong is quite different than not showing up and doing your job. Historically, he has played on turf despite not liking it.
    If I were guessing this was his protest to his buddy Rodgers blowing his Achilles on turf last monday. If Rodgers didn't get hurt I suspect he would have played. I have no direct evidence of this, just human nature, and the fact he was livid and outspoken after Rodgers went down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    If I were guessing this was his protest to his buddy Rodgers blowing his Achilles on turf last monday. If Rodgers didn't get hurt I suspect he would have played. I have no direct evidence of this, just human nature, and the fact he was livid and outspoken after Rodgers went down.
    That’s my worry. Why not rain/snow/Thur or any other non football injury but increased odds of injury as ‘hold out’.

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    It's well known that I'm far from Bakhtiari's biggest fan, but there's a whole lot of assuming facts not in evidence going on in here.
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