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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    If he's seriously hurt, they're gonna need to sign somebody if they don't have a 5th OLB on the roster.
    Brenton Cox is on the roster.
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    LVN, I don’t know if it was his sack or a near sack…. I saw him flash a couple times this evening.

    But he got an edge on an all pro LT, got low and bent the corner in a way that Rashan Gary has never done is his career. LVN has a chance to be special. He’s young. 275lb guys usually don’t become stars in their rookie year. There is a big learning curve with the technique it takes to beat polished and physically matured offensive tackles in the NFL. Speed guys can sometimes win right away, but the bigger guys, it takes a minute.

    But he flashes special. I think he’s better than Rashan Gary. Maybe not this minute, but he shows more upside. Rashan is a big, fast, powerful guy, but he spazzes around out of control and he’s just so strong sometimes it works. LVN is a similar level athlete, is bendier around the edge and looks more natural and coordinated as an athlete. LVN is him. He’s the guy.
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    He is seriously hurt. But LVN had 4 sacks in the last 7 games. I believe it’s the most on our team in that span. Maybe Preston. He’s been coming on. But LVN is starting to make a difference.

    You can get by rotating those 3 and using Brooks and Wyatt a little more too.

    We might sign someone, but I don’t think they’re going to be playing new guys. They’re just going to ride the guys they have a little more.
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    Preston 4 sacks
    LVN 4 sacks
    Clark 3.5 sacks
    Gary 3.5 sacks

    LVN is coming on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Last 7 weeks

    Preston 4 sacks
    LVN 4 sacks
    Clark 3.5 sacks
    Gary 3.5 sacks

    LVN is coming on.
    I've been mostly unimpressed with LVN, but might have to rethink that. He is active, I'll give him that.

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    we had a 32 point lead with 10:30 left in the game, and none of us thought the lead was safe

    what the hell does that say about joe barry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    we had a 32 point lead with 10:30 left in the game, and none of us thought the lead was safe

    what the hell does that say about joe barry?
    What does that say about the defense would be the more appropriate question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    What does that say about the defense would be the more appropriate question.
    If you're trolling to start an honest conversation about whether or not the defense or its individual players execute (i.e. play) well, sure I see your point and what you're doing.
    If you're being serious and suggesting that Barry is a good DC and the players have let him down all season...no, I don't see that.

    I think there have been almost as many times that the players haven't executed as there have been failings of the DC. The question of "bad DC or bad players" is BOTH.
    Getting a good DC eliminates one problem and if you're lucky at least helps to coach up or elevate the ok players to good and the bad players to ok.

    It's not hard to come up with criticisms of Barry's scheme and calls, I'll put it that way.
    His defense put enough of a scare in MLF that he put his starters back in vs. DAL. Not a ringing endorsement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    we had a 32 point lead with 10:30 left in the game, and none of us thought the lead was safe

    what the hell does that say about joe barry?


    that he's back in 2024
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    He seems to make plays in garbage time mostly. That's the only time he gets in. Great moments are born out of great opportunity, so let's see what the kids got. Still need to sign somebody.

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    What happened to Enagbare? I must’ve been busy celebrating. What happened?

    My fondest wish is that when the season is over, Joe Barely announces that he’s retiring.

    The defense played well - or the Cowboys’ offense was sleepwalking. That was one of the most dazed-looking teams I’ve ever seen.
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    Cowboys struggled just to nickel and dime their way to some minimal yards. The bend but don’t break worked until they put it in neutral at the end. Up until then I have no complaints. They let Dak try to win it and he couldn’t.

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    Did Barry save his job with the Cowboys buchwacking ?

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    I'd say yes, because LaFleur is looking for cover - for away to save Barry without too much criticism.
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    I sure hope not. Even up 27-7 at halftime I felt like the lead wasn't safe.

    Two things give me hope:
    (1) GB played a lot softer in the 2nd half, but they still gave up over 500 yards of offense.
    (2) MLF got spooked enough when DAL got to 32 that he put the starters back in

    If Barry can continue this, sure...ok, keep him another year.

    I still don't think he's an above average DC. If he was, he'd be getting interest from other teams.

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    If Barry can continue what?

    Having the defense play well for three quarters and then going soft, like Carolina?

    That’s like saying if a man can get it up for 20 minutes and be hard, that him getting soft at the key moment when she’s getting ready to cum means he’s still great in the sack.

    Ask your wife/girlfriend what she thinks about that.
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    If Barry can continue what?
    Jumping on opponents early, getting turnovers and score, and helping the offense get a big lead. Barry's D is tailor made to be a front runner with a big lead. If they are up by 2 and the other team has the ball with 1 minute and 2 timeouts left forget it.

    I think ultimately MLF will come to his senses - or someone will make him - and he'll get a different DC. If it's not this year, it better be next.

    It's interesting to consider that, even with a 27-7 lead at halftime, they weren't completely safe. DAL scored 25 in the 2nd half (one TD drive was against scrubs but still). If the offense hadn't kept the pedal to the floor that could've been a different game, even theugh GB was kicking the crap out of DAL in the first half.

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    This game doesn't help clarify the situation. Defense played well for 3 quarters but couldn't stop them when they needed to at the end. Forced no turnovers. The usual mix of positives and negatives.
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    I’d be ok whichever way Matt goes. I think almost all of the problem we had was when our secondary was decimated and he had to try to either cover for them or stop the run and have them get gashed. Not much he can do without the horses. He’s not on the field.
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    I suspect they will make a change, but who? Change for the sake of change isn't particularly inspiring. Maybe Wink? This DL with Wink could be a lot of fun. The D would certainly force turnovers.

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