I am also in favor of hiring Harris as DC. Dude’s played /coached in so many schemes, he’ll make a sophisticated DC.Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
I am also in favor of hiring Harris as DC. Dude’s played /coached in so many schemes, he’ll make a sophisticated DC.
I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
Ha, sign me up for Harris. Been saying that for a few weeks now that I think he is going to be a stud in that role.
Any chance MILF calls old buddy Jimmy Leonhard, or has that ship sailed? Kind of feels like some of the luster wore off JL.
I feel like that ship has sailed, but ya never know.
Leonhard has been linked to a few college DC roles, but maybe he has an NFL job in mind. He was an analyst for IL this season, and mentioned as a candidate for MSU and USC DC jobs.
I wouldn't get my hopes up too high, but it would be interesting choice.
Honestly, they could probably get ChatGPT to do a better job than Barry.
Jimmy Leonard should be an easy candidate
Leonhard. Not sure he's such a big deal anymore.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
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LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER; Let's all say it together...........JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY
Jimmy was a Raven and learned a bunch from their elite DC's
When Rey Ryan went to the Jets he said the first guy he wanted to bring in was Jimmy because Jimmy knew how to direct a defense
Jimmy was an elite DC at Wisconsin and was offered numerous opportunities to "upgrade" but Jimmy was loyal to the Badge
Jimmy referred to how GB was always a job he would consider, and the only job at that time he would consider
Jimmy gave such a great interview, that Flower close Jimmy over his Rose Bud and then settled on the RoseBarry after GB lowballed Jimmy with their offer
Now would I take Rex Ryan, Saleh, maybe...maybe Al Harris. MAYBE
But I'll take JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY any day of the week in Green Bay as our next DC
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Joe Barry's Packers defense ranks in 2023
22nd in yards per play
25th in expected points added
22nd in takeaways
26th in passer rating allowed
29th in interceptions
22nd in sacks
28th in yards/rush
21st in scoring%
25th in adjusted net YPA
25th in third down%
31st in plays/drive
and I believe they've dropped out of the top 10 in points allowed to about 17th. I'd have to actually be non-lazy and Google that, and also their Defensive DVOA ranking, but I've heard it's bottom quartile.
Barry has had 3 years to show us something that looks like improvement from Pettine, and basically it's been teases, disappoinments, and meh. I've been skeptical MLF would move on, but after two really bad performances you have to wonder.
Oh, and that DeVito kid the Packers couldn't sack? He was sacked SEVEN times by the NO defense, and the NYG scored a whopping SIX points. Imagine that - a UDFA 3rd string QB looking the part against a real defense.
With his own coaching future on the line, is MLF going to choose as his DC a Senior Football Analyst from Illinois? Maybe, but I doubt it.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Is he of less value because he took this job ?
I would say this is an ignorant way of looking at the situation. Jimmy is getting paid over $1,000,000 this year from the UW Madison and he was pretty strung to take the year off and stay home with family/kids. He turned down better opportunities, but BB knew his pedigree and throw out a carrot and this gig allowed him to work on a part time basis and worked for him proximity wise.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Settle down, fellas. We’re fighting over who the next DC should be, and we haven’t even got the current DC fired yet.
Stay focused. Joe Barely sucks. Joe Barely sucks. Joe Barely sucks.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
ah, it's all in good fun. I would never brawl with Joe
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Do you believe that though? I mean, it's a 4.5 hour drive each way. It's not like he's commuting. I'm sure they moved down there. (You would know better).
I'm not convinced he had a bunch of folks beating down the door to hire him. We shall see. If he got the job, I'd be pretty happy, but I also would be shocked if he got it.
The job allowed him to stay in his home in Monona, with part of his work remote there and part in ILL. I don't think it's 4.5 hours. But early on he was only there a couple days out of the week, Sometimes not even on game day. It fit his schedule and BB wanted another set of eyes. And the Eagles were itnerested in him but he decided he didn't want to make the full committment. He's getting paid a ton from UW; who can blame him for wanting to take a year off, or just work a bit. The gig with ILL is not remotely full time and he didn't want that
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.
The thing with Leonhard though is that he's never coached in the NFL. Yes, I know LaFleur reportedly offered him the job once. But that was when LaFleur was in a very strong position coming off 2 straight 13-3 seasons and nearly taking the team to the Super Bowl. This year he may be coming off 2 straight losing seasons and will know he needs to get this right to assure his own future. I just think he's going to want someone with NFL experience. Not an experienced mediocrity like Barry. He won't go that route again. But a guy who has built a solid reputation with his work in the NFL. I think a guy like Al Harris would have a better chance than Leonhard. We'll see.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
I too would be surprised if he went back to JL after he turned the job down initially. I don't think Leonard even knows what he wants. Before JL had all the control. This time, I think to him to have a shot he'll have to pursue the job and he's still pretty jilted by UW and unsure of the route he wants to go.
I haven't followed AL Harris much; what is his pedigree (besides Tank pimping him for a while, which kinda scares me) ?
I'd love to see a guy like Brian Flores or Vic Fangio; not pursuing them last year was Flower's motherload of F'ck ups. Rarely do you have "2" guys of the pedigree available.
I could embrace Saleh. Does Al Harris have this type of pedigree yet ?
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I think a lot of posters here are saying they're tired of retreads, in large part because those retreads mostly come from the same coaching tree/scheme, and that scheme is being unmasked by Kyle Shanahan and other offenses across the NFL.
As Bobble said, it's about finding someone who's figuring out how to counter what offenses are doing in 2022, not running a defense that worked three or five years ago. Someone who can also adapt based on his defensive talent, playing to strengths and covering weaknesses. Not someone who just runs "The Scheme" over and over.
This is where you wish you could listen in on the interviews and hear which guy is that guy, the one who's thinking ahead, the smart one who has a vision of his own and can communicate that vision to his players (ah, there's that "communication" word).
Al Harris would be a great story - as long as he's not the Bart Starr or Forrest Gregg of defensive coordinators.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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