Eric Henderson from the Rams is a sleeper candidate for Packers DC, if and when Barry is let go.
Eric Henderson from the Rams is a sleeper candidate for Packers DC, if and when Barry is let go.
Even if the Packers make the playoffs, I think Barry is gone. Most think he's on the last year of his contract. So they don't even have to fire him. They can just let his contract expire and "decide to go in another direction". Or Barry could resign to spend more time with his family.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
What if we play SF and he shuts them down again. What if he allows like 6 points, but ST costs us the game? Do they bring him back then?Originally Posted by Joemailman
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
So that standard is "every now and then" ?
Hopefully Matt's answer would be:
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Position coaches maybe should be that kind of "intense" guy, but the DC needs to have and use a brain. Who was that doofus (I think he has since died) that some in here (you?) wanted as Packer DC? Sheesh.
Al Harris coaches in the much acclaimed Dan Quinn D scheme. Consider what he has done with the DBs there in contrast for example to Jerry Gray in Green Bay. The most likely scenario if Quinn becomes a head coach, as many think, is that Jerry Jones keeps Harris in Dallas as DC, but it would be nice if the Packers snagged him first.
What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
I sincerely doubt Dan Quinn gets another HC job. He's in the perfect spot
And who is the top Associate DC there ? A former Packer guy who many kinda liked, Him coming back to GB would not be that surprising either
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
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Joe Whitt might be ok; but I don't wanna hire wild cards.
I'd also be happy with Saleh, and Bowles as Bobble noted
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
If you're right, which I doubt, that would make it more likely the Packers could get him for DC.
What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
Dan Quinn? Why would he leave Dallas if he's thriving. Maybe down the road when his message inevitably gets old and he gets recycled. Al Harris? Yes, I agree it makes it more likely.
Why would anyone hire DQ as a head coach when he's been there, done that, and shown he's not great at it?
I guess I didn't make that very clear hahahaha. I was speaking of Al Harris.
What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
"Joe Barry. The same Joe Barry who led the 2008 Detroit Lions 0-16 defense and never produced a top-20 defense in any stint as defensive coordinator."
Came across this in an article. It says a lot.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
HOFer
Yet when Larry was interviewing coach jr on the jr coaches hour, matty said he believes that the defense can “return” to the high level it’s been at in the past.
Larry did not follow up with the question, “when the fuck was that”?
Kelvin Sheppard looks interesting. Up and comer.
Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
Meh. Detroit's D went from really bad to decent over last season, and has regressed this year. I'm not sold on it. They win because of their offense (their OL, specifically) and when Aidan Hutchinson can disrupt a play or two.
There are a lot of coaches and coaching staffs that will get fired on Black Monday. More and possibly better candidates could emerge.
Yuck, mostly. Also, just a listicle to fill digital space and a deadline.List of candidates.
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/...oe-barry-fired
Dan Quinn is not leaving Dallas unless someone throws a HC gig at him. He's got a good defense on a playoff bound team that -- with luck in the playoffs - could avoid SF and make it. Unlikely, but still. Why would you leave that team unless it was for a HC job?
What has Al Harris done? Does he have experience making calls? I love the dude, but he's a DB coach, that's a jump to DC. DAL has a passing game coordinator already (Whitt), so M3 is basically the boss of Harris' bosses boss. That would be a hell of a jump.
Joe Whitt was here and I didn't get the sense he was happy when he left. Wasn't that under Pettine? Would he really come back? Dude made chicken salad out of you know what in the secondary a few times, but... I dunno. I think he's about where he should be.
Time to get someone new. No old retreads please.
Go out there and Google Joe Barry Washinton defense -- the stories of him being fired read like our current complaints. I don't understand why they thought hiring him would be much different, unless they thought the defensive talent was that much better.
I mean, yeah talent matters a lot. Coaching matters too. Gotta have both to be successful.
Barry seems like a nice guy and I hear he's great in the building, but I wonder if he's just garbage at teaching or -- possibly the issue - play calling. MLF presumably meets with the coaching staff to go review and approve gameplans, so Barry must be able to put those together. Play calling in game is something of an art (so I've been told) and some people are better than others. I suspect adjusting on the fly is a big part of that. I do wonder if he's just really bad at that.
As for him being fired... it's funny, after KC, I thought he was safe, what a difference 2 games makes. MLF no longer back him up unequivocally in press conferences, so I suspect he's gone after the season. That's when it makes sense to let him go and find who else is out there. Right now there's nobody worth bringing in for 2-3 games, and there's nobody on the staff who really seems like they could run the defense and make calls. That last point, to me, stands out as something of an indictment of the coaches -- the fact that there's nobody who has shown enough to be a successor or latch on to another team tells me they either aren't good at developing coaches or the coaches stink. (Probably extends to inability to develop players as well.)
So, not to get banned, but this was too funny. A friend if mine texted me saying that the only thing FJB stands for anymore is fire joe barry.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
Ed Donatell went from Denvers secondary coach to a great DC in GB. It's not unusual.
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