He's in the final year of his deal next year though. I doubt they will extend him unless something dramatically changes. I had forgotten about Bak so I will revise and say I hope they take 4 offensive linemen and two stick.Originally Posted by Joemailman
Boy, the Panthers are fucked. Shittiest team in the NFL and some of the least draft capital.
Vikes not in great shape that way, either, in our division. And oh, the poor Jest!
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If Bryce Young is a bust, that trade with the Bears will set them back 5 years.
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Word is Reich liked Stroud better, but Tepper (the owner) wanted Young and was willing to pay to get him. Yikes.
Tepper has been a trash fire for an owner so far, he's burned through a lot of coaches in a couple of years already.
That team was set back 5 years when he bought them.
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i couldn't understand how anyoe could like young better then stroud. thats a move that should get a guy fired, but it was the owner demanding the pick
if i'm the GM or a coach, i walk out the door after the owner demands that and it turns out to be a shit trade and pick
Packers currently with the 11th pick!
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Nice to have something to root for again.
With Wicks, Reed, Kraft and Musgrave looking like smart, fast, tough, reliable ballers…. And Love playing like a top 10 QB in his first year starting…..Nice to have something to root for again.
Honestly, a down year with injuries on defense and some lost games due to the offense finding its stride. It’s a really good year, even if it’s a losing season. The cap is getting cleaned up. The arrow is up.
I’m content rooting for a high draft pick.
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Romeo Doubs has quietly put up as many receptions and yards as Jayden Reed. Doubs is just athletic enough and has good size. He’s a nice step up from the guys in the past who clearly lacked the athleticism to play at this level. He’s probably an average #2 receiver. He’s putting up those kinds of numbers.
Watson, Wicks and Reed have all shown the talent to be high level #2 targets in an offense. If not low tier #1s
Kraft and Musgrave look like two really good tight ends.
4, 2s and two good tight ends…..
I got a big laugh when people said with Davante out we’d be less predictable and therefor better. That doesn’t really work when your guys aren’t very good. But when you have 6 good targets, yeah, now we are talking about a situation where 6 good ones is better than 1 great one. It’s hard to call a bad play when all the guys are weapons.
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I don't think Doubs is very explosive, and that limits his ceiling. He's a WR2 at best, but I think WR3 suits him better. Jayden Reed and Wicks will likely turn out to be better players.
Watson has many of the attributes to be a WR1, he has to put it together AND figure out how to stay healthy. Otherwise, he's basically a better MVS.
Agree it's good to have multiple quality targets vs. just one. Makes the offense more unpredictable and more resilient to injuries or double coverage.
Doubs is at best James Jones level. Wicks' footwork is something special. If Watson can shake the injury bug, Doubs may be your number 4. That's pretty good.
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Watson is a complete wildcard if he can stay healthy. I am on board with thinking Wicks might be a better long term weapon than the rest
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
David Bakhtiari 2nd year pff grade (71)
Rasheed Walker 2nd year off grade (70)
Let’s not forget for Bakhs first two years when he was just getting his first NFL experience, everyone was trying to replace him with Spriggs even though Bakhs first years were above average tackle play.
Rasheed is the same. He’s already above average and hasn’t hit his prime. Relax on looking to replace him.
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I'd still let the board fall to BPA and if there's a good OT there you take them. Njiman and Bakhtiari are likely gone, and injuries happen. At a minimum you'll want a backup swing tackle, and I'm not sure Tenuta or Caleb are it.
They need help on the OL - their run game has been poor this year and a significant part of that is not Dillon's fault. They need a higher level of talent/competition at all positions: C, G and T.
I would be stunned if Gute didn't draft 2 OL and 2 RBs... probably 2 DBs as well. With all the draft capital they have, doubling up at positions isn't a bad way to try and address weaker areas of the roster.
I've had this creeping thought about drafting -- I wonder if you're better off focusing on offense (with exceptions of pass rushers) simply because that's where the rules of the game favor and where year over year efficacy is more consistent. Defensive performance data from year to year is noisy because it's based on QBs faced and injuries. I wonder if you can probably get by with a good pass rush, and so-so but competent players elsewhere PLUS good coaching. Even a league average defense paired with a top 5 offense will get you far, so why not focus your draft resources there? I'm not 100% convinced of this idea; there are plenty of cases of good offensive teams running into defensive buzzsaws. I think matchups has a role to play there too. It's just something that's been rolling around my head the last year or two re: drafting & team building.
I’m a bigger fan of Meyers than almost all of the Packer fandom. He’s missed a few assignments, but he does a lot of things well. He’s particularly good at pulling and getting a hat on a moving target. Having that option is so nice. You can get creative in the run game and pass pro.
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He's.... ok. He's been playing better, coinciding with their little win streak, but he's still maddening at times. Talented but inconsistent. He has a lot of the things you'd love to have in a C: big, tough, good athlete, battle-tested at OSU. I think they ask a lot of him in terms of pulling and some of the blocks he has to execute. I also think he has brain farts where his reflexes and fundamentals go completely to hell. I don't really know how else to say it.
I also wonder if he's just a bit too tall at C, he struggles with the leverage battle, especially against big NTs. He's a guy you can get by with but should always be looking to upgrade from. I think him being net to Runyan doesn't help things -- I suspect if he had Jenkins on one side and another really solid G on his other side you could hide hiim or help him against tougher fronts. As a R2 pick he's a disappointment but I wouldn't call him a bust. At this point I don't think he's earned a 2nd contract with GB and they'll probably draft competition for him this year. Jake Hanson was not sufficient competition.
In terms of C's they've had over the last few years, he's worse than Wells and Linsley, better than broken down Jeff Saturday. Might be a little better than Evan Dietrich-Smith was, but in that ballpark. My memory could be a bit hazy there, but that feels about right.
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Oh yeah, star LTs are rare. As good as Sheed has been the second half of the season, if you can upgrade, great.
Walker is a big guy, doesn’t have ideal length. Kind of a prototype RT. If you get a stud LT, Walker theoretically can be a star RT.
And Tom…. You’re not in any sort of rush to move him inside. But you sure as hell could and he’d improve either center or RG.
I’m definitely not saying to stay away from star LTs in the draft, just don’t be in a rush to take him first. There are other spots, equally tough to find spots, that we could upgrade more since we already have two quality, young starting tackles.
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What does "buttoned up" mean? Trying to control who drafts him? Trying to assure he's the #1 pick?
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It's Friday, Jan. 12 and Caleb Williams has not yet declared for the NFL draft. The deadline is Monday Jan 15. On Wed, I called Carl Williams, Caleb's dad, to ask why the delay? He referred me to their publicist, who declined to comment until everything is "buttoned up." (1/9)
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Here’s the missing context:
The agent was just putting his dick back in his pants after it had been in Caleb Williams’s mom’s mouth, and was trying to get his Levi’s buttoned up. He didn’t want to comment until after that.
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