Guess this means that Cooper DeJean is out of the equation barring a trade up in the 1st. He'd be huge for this defense due to his versatility and playmaking ability.
Guess this means that Cooper DeJean is out of the equation barring a trade up in the 1st. He'd be huge for this defense due to his versatility and playmaking ability.
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I'd love to have a shot at drafting DeJean. I guarantee that kid won't drop easy interceptions right in his hands. He's a ballhawk with a lot of experience playing offense and fielding punts. Would definitely add a lot of versatility to what we could do in the defensive backfield.Originally Posted by Spaulding
They will take a couple of OL - Runyan and Njiman are gone, and Newman probably shouldn't be back. Someone to push Myers, challenge Rhyan, and learn from Walker/Tom. What happens with Bahktiari is a mystery, but that cap number is ouch.
I think they absolutely have to get better at S, and probably LB too. The DL is young and should get better, the rest of that defensive spine needs improvement. Campbell looks done to me, and all they have under contract at S is Johnson Jr.
Dillon is a FA, Wilson is meh, and Taylor was an emergency get. I think they do everything to keep Aaron Jones and add youth behind him. They need RBs who are dynamic with the ball, Dillon's a great guy and a big dude who can wear on you, but his vision and feet aren't what you need in this offense. They can get younger, cheaper and better there via the draft. My guess is they draft 2 RBs (early and late Day 3).
CB is a sneaky need because Jaire is hurt often lately, and Stokes might never pan out after injuries and rust. Corey Ballentine is a nice depth/ST piece, but you don't want him playing man coverage against a starting WR. Nixon's coverage in the slot is uneven as well. I though OT was the most likely R1 pick for a long time, given their draft position I could see them take a CB there instead - to the confusion of many. The whole "you can never have too many corners" thing is cliche but applies, those guys get banged up a lot and you need more than 1 or 2.
Most mocks have DeJean going 15-20. Missed end of season with injury. Don't know if he's expected to work out at the combine.
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Are we locked in at #25 in the first round?
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I think beating Dallas took us about 6-7 spots back if I understand the positioning correctly
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19th if they lost to Dallas.
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Other than QB, a great player anywhere upgrades our team.
But we need athletic, smart secondary players badly. And a NT too.
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Agree, except on NT. They have Kenny and Slaton. I think they need the youngsters to grow and get better (Brooks, Wooden, and Wyatt). If there's a big dude there like Sweat from UT he could be fun but I don't think NT is the problem. Having 2 DL in nickel and letting the opposing G uncovered and run up into Quay is a problem and that's scheme IMO.
Dammit, Bretsky, you weren't rooting for Dallas, were you?
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Well, I'd feel decent about our prospects whether we lose to Dallas or San Fran in a close game.
I was at complete peace with a loss to Dallas and drafting at 19.
After watching how we lost to San Fran I'm not sure I'm at peace anymore
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need to be looking for a safety for sure, hopefully 2
Biggest needs:
Safety: I like Savage. The whole defense turned around when him and Jaire got back in the lineup. Owens was ok, but not much of a coverage player. It’s a passing NFL. An elite safety would be a huge upgrade.
Slot Corner: Valentine is a player. With Jaires contract and his proven CB1 play over the years, you’re kind of crossing your fingers. Nixon is a tough guy and tackles well. But his coverage isn’t it. An elite slot corner would be such a big upgrade for us!
Running back: Jones has 2 years, and who knows how many more. He’s just not slowing down. But he’s hurt a lot. We need a guy to groom and a guy to split carry’s.
DL: The hardest position to fill in all of football. There are only a handful of impact DL. Frankly, if there is a guy you think is elite, I think you take him no matter who’s there because the long term impact of a top tier guy beats any other position than QB
OL: we have the QB. We have the skill guys. We don’t have the money to pay our OL. Keep drafting.
EDGE: It’s always nice to have more edge players
CB: never hurts having good corners.
ILB: McDuffie is serviceable. Quay is solid. Campbell has a year left. But never hurts to get better.
QB: Would not make sense at all to take one early.
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It's BPA all the way, but they have 5 picks inside the top 100 (or is it 90) - thanks Aaron and Rasul - so they should be able to draft some players who can make contributions as rookies.
As I see it, they have needs at: S, IOL, OT, RB, slot CB, ILB, outside CB.
They should bring in competition at LS and K.
There aren't a ton of elite DL coming out, I doubt they take one.
EDGE will be interesting, I think the Enagbare injury guarantees Preston is back but the EDGE class is meh this year too.
Jordan Love and those receivers - if they stay healthy and develop - could be really really good, but I think better IOL blocking and more dynamic playmakers at RB would make them really tough to defend and probably make them a top 5 offense.
They have issues with their run defense and in the secondary. Talent at the safety position is low, injuries at CB are concerning.
Quay is good but I feel like he's misused at times. McDuffie might be better than Campbell at this point in their careers, but I think you can do a lot better than McDuffie. Would be nice to have an ILB with range and top shelf instincts (ability to shed blocks and tackle would be nice too) to pair with Quay.
They are cleaning up their cap but they still won't have a lot of room to work with (unless they redo contracts, which they certainly will), so Gute will have to put together another good draft.
What are you trying to do with OT? Depth?
80% of first round OTs never become as good as Rasheed and Tom already are. So what are your plans with the high pick at OT? Is this another one of those first round receiver situations where we can have better players but they weren’t from the first round so you’re trying to bring in a first round pick so it feels better?
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Did you see what happened to Packers offense when Tom went out? Lack of depth at OT was a huge factor in the game.
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On one hand you are right
On the other hand, if Jordan Love is even average in the 4th quarter we probably win regrardless of whether Tom was in or not
Maybe the increased pressure was a part of that and thow him off. But he missed some throws a QB normally makes and at very very key times
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Fair enough. But a high pick on a depth piece when we’re consistently good at finding tackles in later rounds….
If you draft a tackle and he’s really good, you want to trade Rasheed after next year for a 1st or maybe 2 firsts if he’s a top 5 guy next year. Then you pay Tom and have 3 more years of a rookie deal at tackle. It’s not bad at all.
But it’s kind of a waste to use a top 26 pick on a backup.
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