Rasul Douglas Traded To Bills

[run pMc]

Given all the problems on this team, I honestly don't think trading Rasul moves the needle THAT much.

They aren't a playoff contender, they aren't even a good team right now.

Trading him gives them a cheap 4 year deal from that R3 pick, $7M in cap space, and developmental snaps for Valentine.

I like Rasul and am sorry to see him go, but I don't think it's a bad deal. PFF grades or not, he got burned against DET. He's a smart guy and has good size they could have really used against Puca Nakua this week, but he's not a speedster and he gambles. He's not going to get any better than he is.
Their window is at best in 2025, he will be past his prime or likely gone by then. Gute is looking to the future with this pick. The present is a 6-7 win team at best.

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Given all the problems on this team, I honestly don't think trading Rasul moves the needle THAT much.

They aren't a playoff contender, they aren't even a good team right now.

Trading him gives them a cheap 4 year deal from that R3 pick, $7M in cap space, and developmental snaps for Valentine.

I like Rasul and am sorry to see him go, but I don't think it's a bad deal. PFF grades or not, he got burned against DET. He's a smart guy and has good size they could have really used against Puca Nakua this week, but he's not a speedster and he gambles. He's not going to get any better than he is.
Their window is at best in 2025, he will be past his prime or likely gone by then. Gute is looking to the future with this pick. The present is a 6-7 win team at best.

the chances of them finding a player the caliber of douglas with that 3rd round picks is about 10%

add in the fact that is now our pick, and gutebag can't find shit in the 3rd and that brings it to about a 2% chance of finding a player of the same quality with that pick

[RashanGary]

the chances of them finding a player the caliber of douglas with that 3rd round picks is about 10%

add in the fact that is now our pick, and gutebag can't find shit in the 3rd and that brings it to about a 2% chance of finding a player of the same quality with that pick

The chances you give here are reasonable. We do save the money, so that’s one small benefit. But the odds of us getting better are slim to none. Rasul was worth every penny. I doubt Gute can spend that small amount of money any better than it was spent on Sul.

[run pMc]

Maybe he packages it with the other R3 pick to move up into R2.
Eventually they have to break this R3 curse. You'd think.

Maybe Murphy decides to shitcan everyone and a new GM benefits. Doubtful, but you never know.

they got Rasul for nothing off a practice squad, it's not like they are losing out on a big investment with him. He'd help them this year, but I think the returns on his will diminish over time.

I get why people are unhappy he got traded. I guess I'm ok with it.

[Fritz]

Probably the best move for the franchise, but you lose a good player who was a leader and you move up two rounds so you can decide between either your next Sean Ryan or your next Oren Burks.

[bobblehead]

Probably the best move for the franchise, but you lose a good player who was a leader and you move up two rounds so you can decide between either your next Sean Ryan or your next Oren Burks.

Except we didn't even move up 2 rounds. We moved up about 40 picks. Or 1.25 rounds.

[Joemailman]

Except we didn't even move up 2 rounds. We moved up about 40 picks. Or 1.25 rounds.

I think in Gute's mind he did move up 2 rounds. I think for Gute to make this move means he feels there is going to be real value in the 3rd round, which means a strong draft, and comp picks will give him plenty of Day 3 picks. That is likely right. Last year was considered by most a weak draft, so it's likely to be stronger this year.

[Sparkey]

Douglas is now playing for his 7th team. Great players don't move that often. It was a good trade as it adds their day 2 pick allotment.

Probably a bigger part of the move is the $$ saved on next years cap. The Packers will be eating Bahk's contract ( 19 Mil dead money cap hit ) next year. They could also end up with another 12.3 mil in dead money if they move Aaron Jones.

All that dead cap space hurts in building experienced depth on the roster. How much better would the oline be if they had the 48 million Rodgers and Amos are using on this years cap ?

So that 7 mil they save on Douglas cap hit next year will help soften the hit from Bahks eventual dead cap hit.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Douglas is now playing for his 7th team. Great players don't move that often. It was a good trade as it adds their day 2 pick allotment.

Probably a bigger part of the move is the $$ saved on next years cap. The Packers will be eating Bahk's contract ( 19 Mil dead money cap hit ) next year. They could also end up with another 12.3 mil in dead money if they move Aaron Jones.

All that dead cap space hurts in building experienced depth on the roster. How much better would the oline be if they had the 48 million Rodgers and Amos are using on this years cap ?

So that 7 mil they save on Douglas cap hit next year will help soften the hit from Bahks eventual dead cap hit.

Packerrats is full of know-it-all capologists.

In 2024, Iranian Stallion’s cap hit is a bit under 40.6M. His infamous “dead cap” number, pre-June, is a bit under 19.1M.

The Packers will, in fact, gain a bit over 20M, cap-wise, simply by terminating the Iranian Stallion pre-June 1. Yeah, since the Packers are in a dreaded cap hell, gotta get rid of arguably their best corner to save 7M, you know, to soften the hit from an inevitable 20M cap saving.

[bobblehead]

Douglas is now playing for his 7th team. Great players don't move that often. It was a good trade as it adds their day 2 pick allotment.

Probably a bigger part of the move is the $$ saved on next years cap. The Packers will be eating Bahk's contract ( 19 Mil dead money cap hit ) next year. They could also end up with another 12.3 mil in dead money if they move Aaron Jones.

All that dead cap space hurts in building experienced depth on the roster. How much better would the oline be if they had the 48 million Rodgers and Amos are using on this years cap ?

So that 7 mil they save on Douglas cap hit next year will help soften the hit from Bahks eventual dead cap hit.

7th? I guess that may be true including practice squads. So what. James Harrison was a practice squad guy who became DPoY. Rasul currently is the 10th best CB in the NFL according to PFF. He has been nothing short of stud since he has been here. By trading him you create another hole on next years roster. I understood we would suck this year and a reset was in order, but you are almost making it impossible to be competitive NEXT year.

Rasul has a contract that is actually CHEAP based on the product he brings to the team. And again, not like we straight up got a 3rd for the 10th rated CB in the NFL, we moved up about 40 spots. So we effectively probably really got a middle to late 4th for him.

[Bretsky]

Douglas is now playing for his 7th team. Great players don't move that often. It was a good trade as it adds their day 2 pick allotment.

Probably a bigger part of the move is the $$ saved on next years cap. The Packers will be eating Bahk's contract ( 19 Mil dead money cap hit ) next year. They could also end up with another 12.3 mil in dead money if they move Aaron Jones.

All that dead cap space hurts in building experienced depth on the roster. How much better would the oline be if they had the 48 million Rodgers and Amos are using on this years cap ?

So that 7 mil they save on Douglas cap hit next year will help soften the hit from Bahks eventual dead cap hit.

Team Leader

Best CB on our roster so far this year

Shit Deal

[Anti-Polar Bear]

And, despite the 12.3M “dead cap,” the Packers will actually gain a tad over 4.8M in cap space by terminating the beloved Jones.

[Fosco33]

He played like shit in the Lions game. Sucks to be in rebuild mode - my only wish was we could’ve dumped Jaire and Preston as well.

[bobblehead]

He played like shit in the Lions game. Sucks to be in rebuild mode - my only wish was we could’ve dumped Jaire and Preston as well.

Did you see that turd Maholmes laid sunday? Thats it, one bad game, trade him for nothing.

[Fosco33]

Did you see that turd Maholmes laid sunday? Thats it, one bad game, trade him for nothing.

We got a 3rd for a free agent - how’s that nothing?

He hasn’t been the same Rasul as 2 years ago - at least in my view. Kinda the same trajectory as Campbell (hot - then not).
And maybe he talked too much shit for the brass to handle - right or wrong.

I’ll stand by it and double down and am pissed we kept Jaire and Preston. Just like when we resigned Bacteria.

Better a year too soon. We’ll miss - like Hyde or TWill - but more the most part it works out.

[bobblehead]

We got a 3rd for a free agent - how’s that nothing?

He hasn’t been the same Rasul as 2 years ago - at least in my view. Kinda the same trajectory as Campbell (hot - then not).
And maybe he talked too much shit for the brass to handle - right or wrong.

I’ll stand by it and double down and am pissed we kept Jaire and Preston. Just like when we resigned Bacteria.

Better a year too soon. We’ll miss - like Hyde or TWill - but more the most part it works out.

For the umpteenth fucking time we did NOT GET A 3rd! We moved up about 40 spots max.

My prediction right now, you heard it here first. For years I advocated moving Micah Hyde to safety. For a year now I've advocated moving Douglas to safety. The Bills will enter the playoffs with 2 elite safeties.

Edit: And you might not believe it, but again, the PFF score had him as the 10th best CB in the entire league. Maybe their scoring favors him, but not to the point that he should be tradeable for what we just got.

[Bretsky]

For the umpteenth fucking time we did NOT GET A 3rd! We moved up about 40 spots max.

My prediction right now, you heard it here first. For years I advocated moving Micah Hyde to safety. For a year now I've advocated moving Douglas to safety. The Bills will enter the playoffs with 2 elite safeties.

Edit: And you might not believe it, but again, the PFF score had him as the 10th best CB in the entire league. Maybe their scoring favors him, but not to the point that he should be tradeable for what we just got.

THIS

[Bretsky]

Did anybody see who was waling off the field and consoling Jordan Love at the end of last weeks game ? Yes, it was Douglas...aka....one of our team leaders.

He was a very good CB for us this year and we have little behind him. If we dump Preston, we have a DE who can get a lot more time. If we dump Campbell, they have a young guy they really like in McDuffie they really like. But what is behind Douglas ?

Truth be told, what Gutebag must have found out is nobody wanted either of those guys. Regardless, we moved up in the draft about 35 slots. I'd have rather just taken a extra 4th. What Gutebag 3rd round pick would you take over Douglas ?

If you throw enough crap against the wall something is bound to stick. And Gutebag has drafted a lot of crap over the years.

And when interviewed, Gutebag gave the standard shit answer for the deal.

Gutebag can go bye bye yesterday

[sharpe1027]

The move id a bit of a head to me. I wonder if he was pushing hard to get out, causing problems in the locker room, or both.

That might explain it somewhat.

[Bretsky]

The move id a bit of a head to me. I wonder if he was pushing hard to get out, causing problems in the locker room, or both.

That might explain it somewhat.

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