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    Yep, 2 picks last I saw. But seriously, who could have predicted the guy who was the #10 CB in PFF rankings would be a valuable commodity.
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    BUF needed bodies at CB, they were decimated there. A R3 pick is pretty good for a 29 year old CB who doesn't have great speed and gambles. He's very smart, can be a ballhawk, and seems like a good dude/leader in the locker room. I wish him nothing but success and enjoyed his play as a Packer. He's had a good season and the Packers would have benefitted this year by keeping him.

    I think at the time GB's playoff chances looked bad and getting a Day 2 pick and cap relief is a win.

    They can use that pick to draft a CB who will be younger and cheaper. Definitely doesn't help them now, but I think almost every move this year is made with the future in mind. Specifically on the offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    BUF needed bodies at CB, they were decimated there. A R3 pick is pretty good for a 29 year old CB who doesn't have great speed and gambles. He's very smart, can be a ballhawk, and seems like a good dude/leader in the locker room. I wish him nothing but success and enjoyed his play as a Packer. He's had a good season and the Packers would have benefitted this year by keeping him.

    I think at the time GB's playoff chances looked bad and getting a Day 2 pick and cap relief is a win.

    They can use that pick to draft a CB who will be younger and cheaper. Definitely doesn't help them now, but I think almost every move this year is made with the future in mind. Specifically on the offense.
    You are doing what so many have done. We didn't get a 3rd for Douglas. We got a 3rd for Douglas and a 4th. I will forever view this as a shit trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    You are doing what so many have done. We didn't get a 3rd for Douglas. We got a 3rd for Douglas and a 4th. I will forever view this as a shit trade.
    I thought it was the Packers 5th, not 4th? Right now it looks like a move of about 70 spots if it is the Packers 5th. That's very significant, in my opinion.

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    Teams aren't going to trade for bad players intentionally, so yeah, we gave up a decent player.
    Packers moved up 70 spots for a guy that was slightly better than his backup and was gone next year. Also, they weren't looking likely to get into the playoffs until this last run of form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    I thought it was the Packers 5th, not 4th? Right now it looks like a move of about 70 spots if it is the Packers 5th. That's very significant, in my opinion.
    I just looked it up. You are half correct, it was a 5th. According to the article they should move up roughly 47 spots. You also once pointed out the comp picks so maybe more like 55. Its not nothing, but its no where near Douglas' value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    I just looked it up. You are half correct, it was a 5th. According to the article they should move up roughly 47 spots. You also once pointed out the comp picks so maybe more like 55. Its not nothing, but its no where near Douglas' value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    I just looked it up. You are half correct, it was a 5th. According to the article they should move up roughly 47 spots. You also once pointed out the comp picks so maybe more like 55. Its not nothing, but its no where near Douglas' value.
    I think I'm fully correct!
    How old is the article you read? Were they assuming GB would be in the top of the rounds?

    If the draft were held on the current records, they would move from 19th in the 5th to 24th in the 3rd. Thats nearly 60 more players available to them just there. Then add in the comp picks at the ends of the 3rd and 4th rounds they will also leap frog (10 or so, give or take) and you get close to 70.
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    If we get a 22 year old borderline probowler with that 3rd round pick, it’ll feel alright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    If we get a 22 year old borderline probowler with that 3rd round pick, it’ll feel alright.
    Seems like about a 1/30 chance, no? Especially at 22. Maybe 1/10 at 27 or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    If we get a 22 year old borderline probowler with that 3rd round pick, it’ll feel alright.
    When is the last time we got that out of a 3rd round draft pick ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    When is the last time we got that out of a 3rd round draft pick ?
    This year
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    If we get a 22 year old borderline probowler with that 3rd round pick, it’ll feel alright.
    If you stand on 11 against a ten and win was it the right move??
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    If you stand on 11 against a ten and win was it the right move??
    Haha, yeah, this is a good point. He’s not fast enough in his prime and is aging. He kind of has a limited time left in the league. Assuming Rasul for several years vs a draft pick that is most likely a bust, the odds are in the favor of Sul. But if you have a 25% chance to land a 10 year player vs 100% chance of having a 2 year player. Plus the rookie contact weighted in. I’m not so sure the odds are as fully in your favor as you think here.
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    Gute has a feel for where the strength is in the draft. Maybe he feels like that’s a sweet spot and wants another shot in that area. I know a year or two back there was some sort of reason the drafts were a little thinner and the depth was supposed to be up this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Gute has a feel for where the strength is in the draft. Maybe he feels like that’s a sweet spot and wants another shot in that area. I know a year or two back there was some sort of reason the drafts were a little thinner and the depth was supposed to be up this year.
    That's what I think. That trade suggests Gute feels there's good value in the 3rd round, but not in the 5th round.
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    Rasul and a R5 pick were traded, not a R4.
    Gute was approached by BUF, he wasn't actively trying to ship Rasul off. It was, in his opinion, too good to pass up. At the time GB was 2-5 and looked pretty lost.

    "Obviously in the short term, you lose a good player. That's tough. But, at the same time, looking long term, it's going to be in our best interests." - Gute

    You can be mad about it or say it was a bad trade, but it's done. Ultimately I'm not sure how much it has really hurt GB. Won't be able to determine if it was a good trade for a year or more.

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    For whatever reason, Rasul wasn't having a good year. Opposing QB's had a passer rating of 109 when targeting him. Valentine and Ballentine have both played considerably better. Rasul's base salary for 2024 was over 6 million. When contacted by Buffalo, I think Gute saw a chance to get something for a guy he was probably going to let go anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    For whatever reason, Rasul wasn't having a good year. Opposing QB's had a passer rating of 109 when targeting him. Valentine and Ballentine have both played considerably better. Rasul's base salary for 2024 was over 6 million. When contacted by Buffalo, I think Gute saw a chance to get something for a guy he was probably going to let go anyway.
    According to PFF Rasul was the 10th ranked CB at the time of the trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    For whatever reason, Rasul wasn't having a good year. Opposing QB's had a passer rating of 109 when targeting him. Valentine and Ballentine have both played considerably better. Rasul's base salary for 2024 was over 6 million. When contacted by Buffalo, I think Gute saw a chance to get something for a guy he was probably going to let go anyway.

    6MIL for Rasul seems like a good value in 2024
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