Rasul Douglas Traded To Bills

[run pMc]

I think Rasul's had a better year than Jaire, injury aside.
Trading Rasul opened a path for Valentine and/or Stokes (who is in trouble IMO) to get snaps as well.

I absolutely think they will draft a CB...preferably one who can play both outside and in the slot.
I think Jaire will be focused after the suspension and next year, I think Valentine will improve. Stokes injuries are concerning, especially for a player who relies so much on his athleticism and speed to cover. He might never be the same.

I love Rasul but he wasn't a fit in their long term plans.

[run pMc]

Bobble, as I understand it you're not against the trading of Rasul, just what he was traded for? I think that's fair.

If it makes you feel better,

the Rams traded Jalen Ramsey for a R3 and TE Hunter Long.
Stephon Gilmore was tradeed to DAL for a R5 pick.

Outside the CB position, Chase Young went for a R3, Montez for a R2. Picture trading Rasul and a R5 for Chase Young, or Rasul and Ben Sims for Jalen Ramsey.

I'm not saying these are all good trades or obviously fair value, but it's what they went for. Fans tend to overvalue players on the team they follow, and I'm certain fans value players differently than the FO.

It's all kinds of goofy, I can't figure it out either. I thought they didn't get a lot for Rasul either, but it's not bad if you compare around the league.

And yes, Rasul has been good this year. He's helped out BUF and was good for GB before that.

[bobblehead]

Bobble, as I understand it you're not against the trading of Rasul, just what he was traded for? I think that's fair.

If it makes you feel better,

the Rams traded Jalen Ramsey for a R3 and TE Hunter Long.
Stephon Gilmore was tradeed to DAL for a R5 pick.

Outside the CB position, Chase Young went for a R3, Montez for a R2. Picture trading Rasul and a R5 for Chase Young, or Rasul and Ben Sims for Jalen Ramsey.

I'm not saying these are all good trades or obviously fair value, but it's what they went for. Fans tend to overvalue players on the team they follow, and I'm certain fans value players differently than the FO.

It's all kinds of goofy, I can't figure it out either. I thought they didn't get a lot for Rasul either, but it's not bad if you compare around the league.

And yes, Rasul has been good this year. He's helped out BUF and was good for GB before that.

I'm not against trading anyone if the price is right. Ramsey is a cancer, that is why he was traded for a song. Chase Young should never have gone for a 3rd. Montez was about to get paid so it made a little more sense, but again, would you take a 2nd for Gary right before we signed him? Comparing things that the GM of the Commanders did to "good moves" should get you a one week suspension

[run pMc]

All I know is GB has 5 picks in the top 100, which is not nothing for a team that has needs.

[MadtownPacker]

Rasul out…

[texaspackerbacker]

Was Douglas just a "hired gun"? Or is he under contract into next season or more? If he's a free agent, is it likely the Packers sign him again?

[Bretsky]

Was Douglas just a "hired gun"? Or is he under contract into next season or more? If he's a free agent, is it likely the Packers sign him again?

He is under contract for next year as well

[sharpe1027]

What did we give up really? Has there been a dropoff in the Packers' defense because of this trade? If no, then it was just depth.

[RashanGary]

What did we give up really? Has there been a dropoff in the Packers' defense because of this trade? If no, then it was just depth.

It’s a short term loss for a 30% chance at a better younger player. Rasul isn’t Charles Woodson. He’s a 28 year old aging CB who didn’t have enough speed in his prime to be able to hang on much longer.

We lost a decent secondary player this year and MAYBE next year.

Gute is on fire right now in the draft. He’s coming up with clutch hit after clutch hit. I’m ok letting that guy come to the plate and take a swing at a fastball on the corner (3rd round pick) instead of trying to hit a perfectly place curve ball that barely touches the top of the strike zone (5th round pick)

[smuggler]

According to OTC, there are six total 3rd/4th round comp picks projected. We'll know the real delta between the picks after the playoffs, regardless.

[sharpe1027]

It's a loss, but we didn't give up that much if the level of play was about the same before and after the trade.

[bobblehead]

It's a loss, but we didn't give up that much if the level of play was about the same before and after the trade.

Since we suck ass on D, by that logic, we could trade anyone for a 7th

[sharpe1027]

Since we suck ass on D, by that logic, we could trade anyone for a 7th

No, trading other players would have made a bigger difference. We could be much worse. For example, if Gary was out all year.

If the results of the game don't change after the trade, how's it a loss to the team?

[bobblehead]

No, trading other players would have made a bigger difference. We could be much worse. For example, if Gary was out all year.

If the results of the game don't change after the trade, how's it a loss to the team?

Our defense hasn't stopped anyone. If Gary were out we wouldn't stop anyone.

[sharpe1027]

Our defense hasn't stopped anyone. If Gary were out we wouldn't stop anyone.

That's hyperbole. They would have lost every single game if they never stopped anyone, so as bad as they were, they could have been worse.

[Fosco33]

I like Rasul and was fine with the trade.

And this by no means is anything other than interesting…

We were 2-5 at the trade deadline when we got some value for him.
And we were 7-3 after the trade.

Are we a better current team without him? Probably not. We might be in the future though. But I’d also be hard pressed to say we would’ve won more games with him either.

[bobblehead]

I like Rasul and was fine with the trade.

And this by no means is anything other than interesting…

We were 2-5 at the trade deadline when we got some value for him.
And we were 7-3 after the trade.

Are we a better current team without him? Probably not. We might be in the future though. But I’d also be hard pressed to say we would’ve won more games with him either.

How have the Bills been before and after the trade??

[run pMc]

How have the Bills been before and after the trade??

Not bad. They beat MIA for the AFCN division crown and have won 5 in a row.
I think Joe Barry could have in their Prime Deion and Woodson at CB and he'd make them play 8 yards off.

The 'Allentines or any half competent CB can do that too.

Barry's D will get exposed vs. DAL and we'll all go back to griping about it.

[texaspackerbacker]

We definitely are gonna see a big contrast in this game about how to deploy your Corners. Back off like Barry tends to which means giving up a LOT of pass plays in front of you but mostly stopping big plays OR play up, take some chances, get some picks, but also risk giving up more big plays - Dallas's way, Whitt's way, Al Harris' way.

I'm kinda on the fence about this. The answer, of course, is do some of both, but then you get into a guessing game with the offense or risk having a sharp QB like Rodgers or Love diagnose what you're doing on that play and taking advantage.

[run pMc]

If they rush 4 and drop 7 and play vanilla zones Dallas will carve them up. They will have to send some pressure or come up with some disguises and wrinkles to throw Dak off his game a little.
Probably will be a shootout.