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    Packers vs. Lions II Discussion Thread

    Packers lead all-time series 105-76-7. 103-76-7 in regular season, 2-0 in playoffs. Lions have won the last 4 meetings.

    Last meeting: September 28, 2023. Lions defeated the Packers 34-20 at Lambeau. Lions had 401 total yards compared to 230 for Packers. Lions rushed for 211 yards, led by David Montgomery with 121 yards and 3 TD's.

    Offensively, Lions rank 6th in points scored and 2nd in total yards. Jared Goff has thrown for 2743 yards with 16 TD's and 8 INT's. Amonm-Ra St. Brown leads Lions in receiving with 898 yards and 5 TD's in 9 games. David Montgomery in 7 games has rushed for 577 yards and 8 TD's.

    Defensively Lions rank 22nd in points allowed, and 9th in yards allowed. Opposing QB's have thrown for 2235 yards with 16 TD's and 8 INT's. Opponents have rushed for 898 yards and 8 TD's for a YPC of 3.8.

    Lions favored by 7.5.
    Moneyline: Packers +287, Lions -361
    Over/under - 47
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    The Lions were looking ahead to playing us on Thanksgiving. They almost lost to the lowly Bears. But alas, they pulled it off and I'm pretty sure will be loaded for....er green and gold come Thursday. We won't get them napping, we will get their best effort. Sadly that is better than our best effort. We managed to beat a below average team in an advantageous situation yesterday, but its unlikely we pull off this one.
    Things to look for. Love continuing to spread the ball around. Watson being used correctly. Reed LINING UP at RB and taking a direct handoff about 7 times ala Randal Cobb. Packers going 5 wide multiple times with no RB on the field. Maybe 4 wide with Musgrave inline.

    Lets see what happens when Barry has to play a team willing to smash it down our throat if we line up soft. SD didn't do it. Eck got 10 carries for 61 yards against a team that can't stop the run. How fucking bad of a coach is Staley anyway. Don't expect Detroit to go pass happy in this one. If we can hold Detroit to under 30 I'll be impressed.
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    Nice win over the Clippers in the last game. Have to win one of the next two, then all the rest of the games are winnable. Amazing they are just outside the playoffs right now.

    Hard to see how to win this one - best chance, have some long drives and eat up the clock. Win turnover battle, the usual stuff needed for an upset.

    Go 1-1 in the next 2. Favorable schedule gives an actual decent chance to get in the playoffs.

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    Savage back to practice is about the only good news here.

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    One can only hope that Jared Goff reverts to being, well, Jared Goff.
    Maybe, just maybe, Jordan Love clicks another click and the game slows down just a tad more.
    Crowd will be infected with Coach Campbell craziness - double edged sword?
    DC Joe Barry oversleeps and misses the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QBME View Post
    One can only hope that Jared Goff reverts to being, well, Jared Goff.
    Maybe, just maybe, Jordan Love clicks another click and the game slows down just a tad more.
    Crowd will be infected with Coach Campbell craziness - double edged sword?
    DC Joe Barry oversleeps and misses the game.
    I picked a hell of a week to stop sniffing glue.
    Hope for the best, prepare for the worst..

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    Sign RB Patrick Taylor off Patriots practice squad

    The Packers brought back Taylor, who played in four games for Green Bay earlier this season and has been with the team since 2020. He moved on after being released in October but is back given the Packers’ need at running back. The move implies that both Aaron Jones and Emanuel Wilson will miss Thursday’s showdown with the Lions. Taylor can run, catch and block on offense and is well-versed on special teams, giving him immediate value behind A.J. Dillon against the Lions. The Packers didn’t place Jones or Wilson on injured reserve, suggesting the team doesn’t think either player will miss four or more games. Taylor could play 15 snaps or more in the No. 2 running back role on Thursday.

    Release S Dallin Leavitt

    Needing a roster spot for Patrick Taylor, the Packers released veteran special teamer Dallin Leavitt. The move is a bit of a surprise given Leavitt’s role on special teams (192 snaps in 2023), but he’s a third-phase player only and is coming off a game in which he drew a pair of penalties on the opening kickoff. The Packers also designated Darnell Savage for return from injured reserve, so the depth at safety is improving. It’s possible the roster, given the injuries at running back, just didn’t have enough room for a specialized player like Leavitt, especially after his meltdown to open Sunday’s game. Given the circumstances, a return might be unlikely.

    Sign RB James Robinson to practice squad

    A move reported earlier Monday. Robinson spent a few weeks on the Packers practice squad earlier this season and now returns as a likely elevation candidate for Thursday. The former Jaguars running back and All-Rookie team pick provides another veteran option should the Packers need help behind A.J. Dillon against the Lions. Expect him to be elevated from the practice squad and be active Thursday. It’ll be Dillon, Taylor and Robinson at running back for the Thanksgiving Day showdown.

    Release S Christian Young from practice squad

    The Packers needed to make a spot for Robinson on the practice squad, and releasing rookie safety Christian Young was the mechanism for getting it done. Young signed to the practice squad on Oct. 3. It’s possible he could return once the Packers get through their issues on the injury front at running back.
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    Well damn expect goodell to swing the refs in Detroit’s favor….

    He may have received some fan .. service.

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    Wasn't sure Taylor would want to come back, he got yo-yo'd around bt the PS and 53 a lot. He's a good enough backup who can play ST and knows the pass protections. Well, he'll be on the 53 for at least a few games.
    Robinson could get a call-up as well. He's largely shot since he blew out his Achilles but the GB RBs can only get 3-4 yards at best (plus a cloud of dust if lucky) it might not matter much.

    I wonder if Zayne Anderson made Leavitt expendable. Leavitt is a nice ST guy who can rally the troops and all but he's an absolute liability at S. If he's not even doing well at ST you move on. I know he's Bisaccia's guy and his salary should be guaranteed for the season since he was on the roster since TC but when you're a struggling team you have to make moves to get better.

    I think the pressure will be on DET actually - they haven't won a Thanksgiving game in several years and Goff was getting booed after his third pick vs. CHI. Crowd will be amped up for sure, and DET is the better team, but GB goes in as a better team than they were in Game 4 and are the clear underdogs. Sometimes going in with nothing to lose can make a difference.

    DET raced out to a big lead last time, but technically GB outscored them in the 2nd half. If GB doesn't beat themselves, and decides to punch back, they could at least keep this game competitive. I think DET wins, but am hoping for a close game where GB continues to show some growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Savage back to practice is about the only good news here.

    Is it though??
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    I'm glad to see Patrick Taylor coming back. Anybody know how serious Jones's injury or Wilson's is?

    I would not be surprised at all if the Packers upset the Lions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadtownPacker View Post
    Well damn expect goodell to swing the refs in Detroit’s favor….

    He may have received some fan .. service.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/nfl-...173328598.html
    Haha!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    I'm glad to see Patrick Taylor coming back. Anybody know how serious Jones's injury or Wilson's is?

    I would not be surprised at all if the Packers upset the Lions.
    Me either. We were watching the game and I said, I hope they score here. Give love 4.5 minutes, I think he has it today. He was getting pissed when things didn’t go right and he seemed genuinely happy and comfortable when things were rolling. I just thought he found a comfort zone and started being himself. And he was groovin on the field with that comfort zone he was in.

    Last week could be the moment his career takes off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Me either. We were watching the game and I said, I hope they score here. Give love 4.5 minutes, I think he has it today. He was getting pissed when things didn’t go right and he seemed genuinely happy and comfortable when things were rolling. I just thought he found a comfort zone and started being himself. And he was groovin on the field with that comfort zone he was in.

    Last week could be the moment his career takes off.
    This week the only thing that's gonna take off is Aidan Hutchinsin around or through the Packers' offensive tackles, whoever they may be this week.

    Lions are going to be on fire - that crowd will be absolutely wild. It's going to be a question of withstanding the first ten minues of the game. Not sure this young team has the poise to do that, and they certainly don't match up in terms of talent. Plus the Loins are not as depleted, injury-wise.

    I'm afraid I see glimmers, mere glimmers, of hope this week, with the Loins starting fast out of the gate, and after some competitive play, pulling away big at the end.
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    Anything is possible, but of the remaining games on the Packers schedule, this game looks like the most unlikely to result in a Packers win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    This week the only thing that's gonna take off is Aidan Hutchinsin around or through the Packers' offensive tackles, whoever they may be this week.

    Lions are going to be on fire - that crowd will be absolutely wild. It's going to be a question of withstanding the first ten minues of the game. Not sure this young team has the poise to do that, and they certainly don't match up in terms of talent. Plus the Loins are not as depleted, injury-wise.

    I'm afraid I see glimmers, mere glimmers, of hope this week, with the Loins starting fast out of the gate, and after some competitive play, pulling away big at the end.
    Work the run game all week in practice. Take the ball first and put together a drawn out 7 minute drive even if you only get a FG. That should calm the fans down at least until Barry fields his excuse for a defense.
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    Was Week 4 the one where everyone on the OL was hurt? IIRC they were without Bakh and Jenkins, I think Runyan got hurt in game and Tom was hobbling around too.
    Hutchinson is a problem to block but I think they'll do better. Only thing is that turf sucks and the dome will be loud.

    I don't think they will have much success running the ball, but they can't start the game throwing 6 straight times either. If nothing else maybe try mixing things up a little, GB is very predictable on 1st down - they run the ball the vast majority of the time. Maybe start with a safe short throw and do what it takes to keep their offense off the field. David Montgomery is probably still running thru holes in the defense in MLF's nightmares. Oh, and don't play 2 DL nickel on the 2 yard line.

    As with most games, it will be won in the trenches and I think DET is better there on both sides of the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Work the run game all week in practice. Take the ball first and put together a drawn out 7 minute drive even if you only get a FG. That should calm the fans down at least until Barry fields his excuse for a defense.
    All week in practice just means today. And they won't want to risk injury to Dillon in practice. Dillon was listed on the injury report yesterday with a groin. They likely started working on the gameplan late last week and that's what they'll go with. Except they might have to take Wicks and Musgrave out of the gameplan. Only way I see Packers winning this game is if the D/ST score at least 1 TD.
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    Not much changed.

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    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

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    Fuck Thursday games.

    That is all

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