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  1. 12-14-2023, 10:14 AM #1
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    Week 15 Other Games Thread

    15 Thu 2023-12-14 7:15PM Los Angeles Chargers @ Las Vegas Raiders

    15 Sat 2023-12-16 12:00PM Minnesota Vikings @ Cincinnati Bengals

    15 Sat 2023-12-16 3:30PM Pittsburgh Steelers @ Indianapolis Colts

    15 Sat 2023-12-16 7:15PM Denver Broncos @ Detroit Lions

    15 Sun 2023-12-17 12:00PM Atlanta Falcons @ Carolina Panthers

    15 Sun 2023-12-17 12:00PM New York Giants @ New Orleans Saints

    15 Sun 2023-12-17 12:00PM New York Jets @ Miami Dolphins

    15 Sun 2023-12-17 12:00PM Chicago Bears @ Cleveland Browns

    15 Sun 2023-12-17 12:00PM Kansas City Chiefs @ New England Patriots

    15 Sun 2023-12-17 12:00PM Houston Texans @ Tennessee Titans

    15 Sun 2023-12-17 3:05PM Washington Comm. @ Los Angeles Rams

    15 Sun 2023-12-17 3:05PM San Francisco 49ers @ Arizona Cardinals

    15 Sun 2023-12-17 3:25PM Dallas Cowboys @ Buffalo Bills

    15 Sun 2023-12-17 7:20PM Baltimore Ravens @ Jacksonville Jaguars

    15 Mon 2023-12-18 7:15PM Philadelphia Eagles @ Seattle Seahawks
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    NATIONAL BROADCASTS
    Thursday Night: LA Chargers @ Las Vegas (Amazon)
    Saturday 1 PM ET: Minnesota @ Cincinnati (NFLN; Chris Rose, Jason McCourty)
    Saturday 4:30 PM ET: Pittsburgh @ Indianapolis (NFLN; Rich Eisen, Kurt Warner)
    Saturday 8:15 PM ET: Denver @ Detroit (NFLN; Kevin Harlan, Trent Green)
    Sunday Night: Baltimore @ Jacksonville (NBC)
    Monday Night: Philadelphia @ Seattle (ESPN/ABC)

    Fox Early - Most of the country will get Kansas City at New England. Joe Davis and Daryl Johnston with the call. Southern Wisconsin and most of Illinois will get Chicago at Cleveland. Kevin Kugler and Mark Sanchez with the call.



    Fox Late - Dallas at Buffalo will be nationally televised. Kevin Burkhardt and Greg Olsen with the call.
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    Not on the radar but an "other game" this week, Iowa Western won the NJCAA Championship. My cousin's son had 4 tackles, 3 TFLs, 1 sack and a forced fumble for the Reavers.
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    I just landed tickets for tonights game at face value, but I hate both teams. I guess I'll go cheer against whoever the fans around me are backing.
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    Raiders lead Chargers 42-0 at halftime. Looks like Brandon Staley will be looking for a DC job this offseason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Raiders lead Chargers 42-0 at halftime. Looks like Brandon Staley will be looking for a DC job this offseason.
    My friend and I were joking at about this point in the game that with our luck MiLF will finally fire Barry as Staley becomes available. SD fans near us were MFing him up and down the aisle. I can't remember attending a bigger blowout that this one. I was in GB when we beat the Titans something like 44-10 and it was over at halftime. Thats the only other game I can recall like this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Raiders lead Chargers 42-0 at halftime. Looks like Brandon Staley will be looking for a DC job this offseason.
    My impression is that in general, defensive coordinators in the past, I dunno, ten or so years, do not do so well when hired as head coaches. I'm thinking of Staley and Saleh right now.

    If that is true and not just an impression, I wonder why that is so. Couldn't a D-coordinator-turned-head-coach offer some up and coming offensive mind the benefit of having near-complete control over an offense?

    It's a curious thing. Or maybe it's not true. Or maybe there is no real reason.
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    One thing I've noticed is that a lot of times when a DC becomes a HC, his defenses aren't as good as when he was a DC. Maybe because he can't spend all his time focused on the D. Or maybe good DC's are just harder to find than good OC's. I don't think Saleh fits into this. His problems stem mainly from the QB situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    One thing I've noticed is that a lot of times when a DC becomes a HC, his defenses aren't as good as when he was a DC. Maybe because he can't spend all his time focused on the D. Or maybe good DC's are just harder to find than good OC's. I don't think Saleh fits into this. His problems stem mainly from the QB situation
    Yep. Saleh's problem, as it would be with ANYONE who would've coached this Jets team, is the shitshow they've run out at QB. Just look how a shitty QB can make even a legend like Belichick look.
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    Staley is out as HC of the Chargers as well as Telesco, the GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    My friend and I were joking at about this point in the game that with our luck MiLF will finally fire Barry as Staley becomes available. SD fans near us were MFing him up and down the aisle. I can't remember attending a bigger blowout that this one. I was in GB when we beat the Titans something like 44-10 and it was over at halftime. Thats the only other game I can recall like this one.
    Not bigger, but there was the Packers-Bears game in 2014 that was 42-0 Packers at the half in route to a 55-14 win.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadScientist View Post
    Not bigger, but there was the Packers-Bears game in 2014 that was 42-0 Packers at the half in route to a 55-14 win.
    I meant games I attended though. Blowing out the bears is always "bigger"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkey View Post
    Staley is out as HC of the Chargers as well as Telesco, the GM.
    And in their place?

    "Outside linebackers coach Giff Smith was named interim head coach and director of player personnel JoJo Wooden will be interim GM."

    Wow. The Giff and JoJo Show. You gotta love that.

    One problem I have with the Yahoo article from which the quote came is that writer kept writing that the Chargers were "disinterested" in the game.

    No. "Disinterested" means you have no skin in the game. What the writer meant was that the team was "uninterested." A judge, for example, should be disinterested but not uninterested.

    Anyway. Will Staley-the-DC be less desirable as a DC candidate after the clusterfuck that was his tenure as an HC? Or is he still a really good DC?
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    Staley was only a DC for 1 year, and had only been in the NFL for 4 years before getting a HC job. The Rams had the NFL's #1 defense his 1 year as DC, but his defenses with the Chargers haven't been very good. In the 2020 playoffs, Packers didn't have much trouble with the Rams defense. I'd be surprised if he gets a DC job in the NFL next year.
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    ^ Agreed, I think he could be a good LB coach though.
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    We had Brian Flores and Vic Fangio to choose from last year

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    George Pickens blocking effort on running play. May be part of the reason some teams passed on him even though he had great talent. https://twitter.com/i/status/1736143352997777679
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    Tyler Goodson looked pretty good in that game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    ^ Agreed, I think he could be a good LB coach though.
    This just cracked me up. That’s like saying your favorite ex-president (Obama, Trump, I don’t care) would be a damn good state representative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    This just cracked me up. That’s like saying your favorite ex-president (Obama, Trump, I don’t care) would be a damn good state representative.
    Just from my experience in the real world, some guys have real egos and can handle taking on a job that isn't as prestigious as the previous one....some have arrogance and can't.
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