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    Gary might be hitting fatigue after pushing so hard to get back on the field. I suspect they are trying to keep him fresh as well.
    Losing Enagbare isn't great but they have Brenton Cox and if McDuffie can play they might even try Quay or some other options to rush Purdy.

    Stud for GB: first half Dak. 0 passing yards in the first qtr, and 2 Ints including telegraphing a pick six for Savage. Dak is a good QB but he occassionally has stretches where he'll look almost unplayable. 2nd half Dak was better and GB played softer but that was too much of a deficit to overcome with GB's offense rolling.

    Jordan Love, Aaron Jones, Doubs, and the OL were studs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    Gary might be hitting fatigue after pushing so hard to get back on the field. I suspect they are trying to keep him fresh as well.
    Losing Enagbare isn't great but they have Brenton Cox and if McDuffie can play they might even try Quay or some other options to rush Purdy.

    Stud for GB: first half Dak. 0 passing yards in the first qtr, and 2 Ints including telegraphing a pick six for Savage. Dak is a good QB but he occassionally has stretches where he'll look almost unplayable. 2nd half Dak was better and GB played softer but that was too much of a deficit to overcome with GB's offense rolling.

    Jordan Love, Aaron Jones, Doubs, and the OL were studs.
    This team must lead the league in personal foul penalties. They get at least one a week.
    Gary was less effective than usual because he got more attention than sometimes. That enabled Van Ness, P. Smith, and the interior D Linemen to put pressure on the QB.

    What exactly is Enagbare's injury? As I recall, Brenton Cox looked pretty good in preseason. We got him as a UDFA because of his past character issues. I would be hopeful he could be a decent factor. Otherwise, I doubt they would have kept him around as well as letting Justin Hollins go.

    The one and only personal foul I saw called was the horse collar by Quay - which replay showed was a bogus call. I don't honestly think the Packers have had more personal fouls than most teams.
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    https://x.com/hawkeyesnfl/status/174...Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw

    That’s against a probowl LT. That’s special for a 275lb guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    https://x.com/hawkeyesnfl/status/174...Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw

    That’s against a probowl LT. That’s special for a 275lb guy.
    While watching that sack develop, I noticed that Enagbare basically engaged the RT then dropped off the rush to fill the passing lane for any slant. Made Dak pull down the ball and look left, which gave Van Ness that additional time to get Prescott wrapped. The D had a great game plan and executed it beautifully.

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    Found out about a stud today from the twitterverse...

    When the Pack went in the tunnel, ST coach Bisaccia yelled up into the stands "How bout them Cowboys"? to a bunch of miserable Boyz fans and the laughter of the team. You go coach..
    Two guys who have had a very uneven season, Myers and Runyan played spectacularly. It looked like they were not up to par during the year, but got back on track in solid fashion in this ballgame.

    Joe Barry We did not play a two shell that much. We played Cloud, more on that later. It's a 3 deep coverage with two safties and a corner, That form of 3 high is called SKY. 2 corners and a safety high is called Cloud. somebody clip this out and send it to Greg Olsen who called our Sky set Cloud, so he'll know what he's talking about in the future. Barry played the 3 high perfectly and deserved a STUD rating after a very beleaguered season. The big example of this coverage was Savages pick. He rotated down exactly right from the 3 high and got a pick 6.

    Goddamn this was a great win!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KYPack View Post
    Found out about a stud today from the twitterverse...

    When the Pack went in the tunnel, ST coach Bisaccia yelled up into the stands "How bout them Cowboys"? to a bunch of miserable Boyz fans and the laughter of the team. You go coach..
    Two guys who have had a very uneven season, Myers and Runyan played spectacularly. It looked like they were not up to par during the year, but got back on track in solid fashion in this ballgame.

    Joe Barry We did not play a two shell that much. We played Cloud, more on that later. It's a 3 deep coverage with two safties and a corner, That form of 3 high is called SKY. 2 corners and a safety high is called Cloud. somebody clip this out and send it to Greg Olsen who called our Sky set Cloud, so he'll know what he's talking about in the future. Barry played the 3 high perfectly and deserved a STUD rating after a very beleaguered season. The big example of this coverage was Savages pick. He rotated down exactly right from the 3 high and got a pick 6.

    Goddamn this was a great win!!!!
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    Rasheed is a year younger than Tom 23 vs 24


    He’s still got a year of real physical development on top of refining his craft. The arrow is pointing top 10 and probably not 10 for left tackles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KYPack View Post
    Found out about a stud today from the twitterverse...

    When the Pack went in the tunnel, ST coach Bisaccia yelled up into the stands "How bout them Cowboys"? to a bunch of miserable Boyz fans and the laughter of the team. You go coach..
    Two guys who have had a very uneven season, Myers and Runyan played spectacularly. It looked like they were not up to par during the year, but got back on track in solid fashion in this ballgame.

    Joe Barry We did not play a two shell that much. We played Cloud, more on that later. It's a 3 deep coverage with two safties and a corner, That form of 3 high is called SKY. 2 corners and a safety high is called Cloud. somebody clip this out and send it to Greg Olsen who called our Sky set Cloud, so he'll know what he's talking about in the future. Barry played the 3 high perfectly and deserved a STUD rating after a very beleaguered season. The big example of this coverage was Savages pick. He rotated down exactly right from the 3 high and got a pick 6.

    Goddamn this was a great win!!!!

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    It looks like they were playing some sort of off man cover 1 scheme. I think savage was coming down to cover #3 and he had an opportunity to do something better. It looks like quay was matched on #20. Everyone else was obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    https://x.com/poolpartygaming/status...Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw


    It looks like they were playing some sort of off man cover 1 scheme. I think savage was coming down to cover #3 and he had an opportunity to do something better. It looks like quay was matched on #20. Everyone else was obvious.
    Yeah, 59 blitzes. That was a cover 1 off man look. I can’t imagine what Dak was thinking??

    I went back and looked at the TV copy. When the slot shifted, Campbell moved over with him. Then the snaps came pretty quick and Campbell was blitzing. I think Dak expected man defense with two safeties. In that case, Cambell would have been occupied with the slot and the 2 receiver had leverage to get that slant.

    Savage did a great job disguising the cover 1. Campbell shifting indicated man. Dak thought he knew what he was looking at and thought his guy could win with that leverage and no one could be there because Campbell would be occupied on the other slant.

    It was a good disguise and caught them off guard. Having Campbell motion with the slot was really confusing.
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    Dak has wide eyes at that time in the game and they were pushing tempo down 3 scores at the end of the half.

    That was a great call by Barry. With Savage back, and jaire, and everyone else having a little more experience, Barry can do a few more things. He’s a good DC, just needed a little competency in the back so he could mix it up a little more and drift from base installs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Dak has wide eyes at that time in the game and they were pushing tempo down 3 scores at the end of the half.

    That was a great call by Barry. With Savage back, and jaire, and everyone else having a little more experience, Barry can do a few more things. He’s a good DC, just needed a little competency in the back so he could mix it up a little more and drift from base installs.
    Sorry but this is rubbish.. So when it goes bad it's all on the players but if it goes well it is Barry.

    You don't know what the call was. Maybe Savage freelanced and jumped the route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    Sorry but this is rubbish.. So when it goes bad it's all on the players but if it goes well it is Barry.

    You don't know what the call was. Maybe Savage freelanced and jumped the route.
    Look at the Twitter link. It’s pretty damn obvious what the play was based on everyone playing cover 1 off man defense. Quay is the only one with a mildly questionable path and I think he’s baiting Dak to go to the flat.
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    The only way that play could have been better is if Campbell had masked his blitz better. Tom Brady would have sniffed that out. But if Campbell can have a little discipline, that’s a call that can surprise most quarterbacks. For Brady, that would typically be a sack or a lucky off schedule because he’d have seen Campbell blitzing and known something was off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    https://x.com/poolpartygaming/status...Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw


    It looks like they were playing some sort of off man cover 1 scheme. I think savage was coming down to cover #3 and he had an opportunity to do something better. It looks like quay was matched on #20. Everyone else was obvious.
    Nope Justin, but at least you are learning the coverages and rotation.

    Let's go to the tape https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnyMQX0951E

    This ain't no off man cover one. The deep guys are two safeties and a corner. This rotation is set up to give plenty of cover on Lamb. Savage is reading his keys and then plays his read on Lamb's route. Does he ever read that shit right, he jumps Lamb's route for the pick 6. In this cover the one safety goes deep to be the deepest of the deep, the other guy is Savage and the 3rd guy is the off corner covering that wide out and not part of this play. That's a sky coverage. Cloud is similar, Two corner and a safety rotate deep. It's used far less than in days of yore, corners are used more in different rotations.

    I see people yell about this all the time, but they just don't understand the strategy of zone coverage. ALL zones evolve into man (coaches call it iso) eventually. That's the point of them. To rotate guys into position to have leveraged coverage or to be in the right spot to give help at the right spot and the right time. Most Nfl coverages incorporate principles of both zone and man coverages in various combinations. There are any number of rules in the various covers as to who does what and who goes where. I make it a hobby to pick up on these coverages and the rules and changes in em. The way I figure it, I'm probably 10 years behind the average young NFL assistant. Making me only half a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KYPack View Post
    Nope Justin, but at least you are learning the coverages and rotation.

    Let's go to the tape https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnyMQX0951E

    This ain't no off man cover one. The deep guys are two safeties and a corner. This rotation is set up to give plenty of cover on Lamb. Savage is reading his keys and then plays his read on Lamb's route. Does he ever read that shit right, he jumps Lamb's route for the pick 6. In this cover the one safety goes deep to be the deepest of the deep, the other guy is Savage and the 3rd guy is the off corner covering that wide out and not part of this play. That's a sky coverage. Cloud is similar, Two corner and a safety rotate deep. It's used far less than in days of yore, corners are used more in different rotations.

    I see people yell about this all the time, but they just don't understand the strategy of zone coverage. ALL zones evolve into man (coaches call it iso) eventually. That's the point of them. To rotate guys into position to have leveraged coverage or to be in the right spot to give help at the right spot and the right time. Most Nfl coverages incorporate principles of both zone and man coverages in various combinations. There are any number of rules in the various covers as to who does what and who goes where. I make it a hobby to pick up on these coverages and the rules and changes in em. The way I figure it, I'm probably 10 years behind the average young NFL assistant. Making me only half a moron.
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    I shall wait until the “shutdown corner” (who shut down Charles whats-his-name) weighs in on this matter. The basics and strategies of the game must be learned and respected!!

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    2nd year, 7th round pick Rasheed Walker in pass pro against one of the best pass rushing units in the NFL

    Rasheed Walker vs. the Cowboys

    21 pass-blocking snaps
    0 sacks allowed
    0 pressures allowed

    Per PFF
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    2nd year, 7th round pick Rasheed Walker in pass pro against one of the best pass rushing units in the NFL

    Rasheed Walker vs. the Cowboys

    21 pass-blocking snaps
    0 sacks allowed
    0 pressures allowed

    Per PFF
    they showed a some stats, maybe during last weeks game, maybe the week before, that showed some really jaw dropping numbers from walker this year

    if his name was bakhtiari he probably makes the pro bowl this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    they showed a some stats, maybe during last weeks game, maybe the week before, that showed some really jaw dropping numbers from walker this year

    if his name was bakhtiari he probably makes the pro bowl this year
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    But Walker is next. The whole OL was a little shaky to start. And Walker was right at the head of that class. But the way he’s played the second half, absolutely, he’s knocking on probowl level LT play. And it’s highly doubtful that this is his prime. Next year should be the start of his best years.

    I don’t think we need a tackle. A depth piece for sure, but I don’t think a first round stud tackle makes as big of a difference as other positions would.
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    I would not say Myers and Runyan played spectacularly, but definitely performed above expectation, and (Runyan at least) above average.

    Doubs night was one of the most efficient in NFL history.

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    Take a moment to celebrate the night of Romeo Doubs, who produced 151 receiving yards while running only 16 total routes. That’s almost 10 yards per route run. An elite number at the wide receiver position over the course of a full season is around 2.0 yards per route run. Doubs averaged 9.44 on Sunday. He caught all six targets and averaged 25.2 yards per catch. The performance is one of the most efficient by a wide receiver in modern NFL playoff history — Doubs is just the 10th player to produce 150 or more receiving yards on six or fewer catches in the postseason.

    Source: Packers PFF grades: Best, worst players from NFC Wild Card Round vs. Cowboys

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    Red! You nailed it. His name is now “Walktiari.”

    Now let’s all wait for APB to weigh in on KY’s informative post and call something a “pistol” formation or scheme.
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