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    Conditions in Kansas City and Buffalo have me wondering: Were the Packers secretly glad the game was in Jerry's dome rather than the Lambeau icebox?
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    Joe. We are a dome / nice weather team. I read some where we average just over 28 ppg in domes this season. That's sn extra td. I think we need to aim for wc every season.
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    I believe the Packers offense benefitted greatly from not spending snaps on AJ Dillon runs. Forcing the ball to Jones and into Love's hands was a huge boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    I believe the Packers offense benefitted greatly from not spending snaps on AJ Dillon runs. Forcing the ball to Jones and into Love's hands was a huge boost.
    jones was highly motivated yesterday too playing in his home state

    but it was nice to just see constant jones instead of 1 series for jones, then the next for dillon

    if you got a hot hand, you stick with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    I believe the Packers offense benefitted greatly from not spending snaps on AJ Dillon runs. Forcing the ball to Jones and into Love's hands was a huge boost.
    Agree they absolutely did. I think Dillon would have been an upgrade over Wilson or Taylor, but I think you have to ride Aaron Jones as much as possible. He missed half the season so he should be good.

    Also - Zach Tom wasn't perfect but he essentially stopped Micah. Micah had a pretty quiet game...you didn't hear his name called a lot except for the two holding calls he drew. If only they did that against Maxx Crosby.
    That said, Tom has been very very good, and while he's not a prototype OT I think you have to leave him there. Having a guy you can set-and-forget and don't need to give a lot of help to, can really help out the rest of your OL and protection calls.

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    Best, worst PFF grades https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lis...nd-vs-cowboys/

    Top 5 offense

    1. TE Luke Musgrave: 93.4
    2. WR Romeo Doubs: 93.2
    3. QB Jordan Love: 92.5
    4. RB Aaron Jones: 89.5
    5. RT Zach Tom: 83.9

    Musgrave caught all three of his targets for 52 yards and a touchdown while running just eight routes (6.5 yards/route run). In addition to the touchdown, his two others catches converted first downs. Doubs caught all six of his targets for 151 yards and a touchdown while running just 16 routes (9.4 per route/run). He had a 100 percent success rate on catches and four catches over 20 yards, plus a touchdown. Love was nearly perfect and dominated in almost every situation imaginable for a quarterback (more on him later). Jones had four runs over 10 yards, forced four missed tackles, scored three touchdowns and produced seven other first downs (one receiving). Tom allowed just two pressures while facing one of the NFL’s best pass-rushers, and he earned an elite grade in the run game.

    Top 5 defense

    1. S Darnell Savage: 92.1
    2. CB Jaire Alexander: 82.8
    3. CB Keisean Nixon: 71.0
    4. S Anthony Johnson Jr.: 64.3
    5. LB De’Vondre Campbell: 64.1

    Savage had the game-breaking pick-six and was charged with only two completions into his coverage, and he didn’t have a missed tackle on five attempts. Alexander had an interception setting up a touchdown, allowed only two catches and made six tackles without a miss. Nixon had a team-high three stops, including a third-down sack, and broke up a pass and forced two incompletions. Johnson didn’t give up a catch into his coverage over 21 coverage snaps. Campbell dropped an interception in the end zone but was solid against the run.

    Bottom 5 offense

    1. RG Royce Newman: 37.5
    2. RG Sean Rhyan: 42.5
    3. TE Tucker Kraft: 47.5
    4. C Josh Myers: 53.0
    5. WR Jayden Reed: 53.6

    Newman played only three snaps, but he whiffed on a run block. Rhyan gave up a pressure and earned the offensive line’s lowest run-blocking grade. Kraft was penalized for holding in the red zone and dropped Jordan Love’s late third-down attempt. Myers didn’t give up a pressure but got a below average grade in the run game. Reed didn’t catch any of his three targets and didn’t have a touch over 26 snaps.

    Bottom 5 defense

    1. S Zayne Anderson: 28.7
    2. LB Eric Wilson: 34.3
    3. OLB Kingsley Enagbare: 47.7
    4. OLB Preston Smith: 48.8
    5. DL TJ Slaton: 49.2

    Anderson was charged with giving up a 47-yard catch, and he was late to getting to Jake Ferguson on a fourth-quarter touchdown pass. Wilson gave up a touchdown pass to Ferguson in the fourth quarter. Enagbare had three pressures over 34 pass-rushing snaps and earned a low run defense grade. Smith had a late sack, but he finished with just two pressures over 43 pass-rushing snaps. Slaton had one run stop but was ineffective as a pass-rusher.

    Special teams

    Isaiah McDuffie had a pair of tackles over nine special teams snaps. Others to have tackles were Zayne Anderson and Eric Wilson. The Packers didn’t have a special teams penalty or missed tackle. Daniel Whelan put three punts inside the 10-yard line. Anders Carlson went 6-for-7 on extra points. The only “returned” kicks or punts came on the two onside kick recoveries.

    Quarterback

    Jordan Love: 92.5

    Love’s highest graded game of the season arrived in his playoff debut. He earned elite grades from clean pockets, under pressure, when blitzed, when not blitzed, off play-action and with no playaction. Love connected on four passes of 20 or more yards in the air and was 8-for-10 for over 200 yards on passes of 10 or more air yards. On throws to the middle of the field beyond 10 yards, he was 5-for-5. One of his two “big time throws” was a wicked side-arm toss to Romeo Doubs for a 3-yard touchdown on fourth down. Love wasn’t sacked and dealt with pressure on just seven dropbacks, and he didn’t have a turnover worthy play. A truly elite performance.


    Stat to know

    Take a moment to celebrate the night of Romeo Doubs, who produced 151 receiving yards while running only 16 total routes. That’s almost 10 yards per route run. An elite number at the wide receiver position over the course of a full season is around 2.0 yards per route run. Doubs averaged 9.44 on Sunday. He caught all six targets and averaged 25.2 yards per catch. The performance is one of the most efficient by a wide receiver in modern NFL playoff history — Doubs is just the 10th player to produce 150 or more receiving yards on six or fewer catches in the postseason.

    Another stat to know

    Jordan Love was under pressure on just seven of his 21 dropbacks. When pressured, Love completed 5-of-7 passes for a staggering 152 yards and two scores. His average depth of target when pressured was 19.4 yards, meaning he was effectively attacking down the field despite rushers in his face. Credit Love for his coolness under pressure. And credit the offensive line for giving him enough time to create explosive plays. PFF charted Micah Parsons with only three total pressures.
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    It’s really mind-boggling to realize that Reed had not a single catch. And was he even targeted? Not a catch. When, for a few weeks now, he seems like he’s been the fulcrum of this offense. What does that say about this group of receivers, about MLF’s playcalling, and about Love’s willingness to throw to whomever’s open?

    Hard not to wonder what Rodgers would’ve done with this group. I can hear him in an interview with his passive-aggressive moves, saying geez, he would’ve loved to play with such a talented bunch of young receivers. But I also think about him throwing the ball to Davante Adams, double or triple-covered, while some rookie receiver was in the middle of the field with no defenders closer than fifteen yards.

    But anyway, amazing that the stud from last week isn’t even heard from this week - but it doesn’t even matter. Mind-boggling after the late Rodgers years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    It’s really mind-boggling to realize that Reed had not a single catch. And was he even targeted? Not a catch. When, for a few weeks now, he seems like he’s been the fulcrum of this offense. What does that say about this group of receivers, about MLF’s playcalling, and about Love’s willingness to throw to whomever’s open?

    Hard not to wonder what Rodgers would’ve done with this group. I can hear him in an interview with his passive-aggressive moves, saying geez, he would’ve loved to play with such a talented bunch of young receivers. But I also think about him throwing the ball to Davante Adams, double or triple-covered, while some rookie receiver was in the middle of the field with no defenders closer than fifteen yards.

    But anyway, amazing that the stud from last week isn’t even heard from this week - but it doesn’t even matter. Mind-boggling after the late Rodgers years.
    i think i remember 1 pass thrown his way

    it was later in the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    i think i remember 1 pass thrown his way

    it was later in the game
    Pff said there were 3. I found 1 in the first quarter, and 1 on their last scoring drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    i think i remember 1 pass thrown his way

    it was later in the game
    Yeah he was targeted 3 times as in the PFF grades. I wonder if DAL was keyed on him as the biggest receiving threat and took him out of the game, or if all his injuries made him less effective.
    I'm pretty sure I saw Darnell Savage absolutely whiff on a tackle attempt of Pollard in the hole, and I saw some of the performances a little differently than PFF did. Overall I think they are in the ballpark at least but Doubs, Love, Jones and Tom were the clear offensive studs.

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    Kinda the way it shakes out with receiver by committee. Sucks for him, but Melton also kinda got left out in the cold with Doubs going beef-moe.

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    It's a great problem to have. Nobody was avoiding Reed (or Melton or Watson) either. But Reed apparently was the guy the opponent chose to cover best, probably based on the way he has played. No problem, Love fairly easily pivoted to Doubs and to a lesser extent Wicks. Receiver by committee simply is not a bad thing.
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    I stay away from most National media, but what I've seen/heard has mostly been how the 'Boi's dropped the ball and choked.

    I finally heard Pat Kirwan on 'Moving the Chains' tell a Cowboys fan: "You got punched in the mouth....you got bullied and you didn't fight back."

    Nice to hear someone acknowledge the Packers beat-down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    I stay away from most National media, but what I've seen/heard has mostly been how the 'Boi's dropped the ball and choked.

    I finally heard Pat Kirwan on 'Moving the Chains' tell a Cowboys fan: "You got punched in the mouth....you got bullied and you didn't fight back."

    Nice to hear someone acknowledge the Packers beat-down.
    I really like listening to Pat & Jim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    I really like listening to Pat & Jim.
    Best insights in the business, IMO. It helps they can sit and tear things apart and not really worry about viewership so there's no bombast.

    They both have great insights, even if PK has been slow to jump on the Love Train.

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    The Cowboys got beat by a better team - probably the only better team in the NFC, maybe the only better team in the NFL.
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    The Packers are the only team in NFL postseason history to post

    48+ points
    400 + Total Yards
    Zero turnovers
    Zero Sacks Allowed

    In a single game.

    (They did all this while also being the youngest team in NFL history to Win a playoff game)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Jacob Morley
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    The Packers are the only team in NFL postseason history to post

    48+ points
    400 + Total Yards
    Zero turnovers
    Zero Sacks Allowed

    In a single game.

    (They did all this while also being the youngest team in NFL history to Win a playoff game)
    Against a supposedly really good defense.

    This is Epic.

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    I know some (many?) in here aren't gonna agree, but I'm getting the same idea I always had with Rodgers and the O Line, now with Love. Rodgers and now Love make the O Line SEEM better than they are with their mobility and ability to throw on the move/off platform. No sacks, few pressures, that's what stats show, but observation of the game shows pass rushers almost always getting in, especially outside rushers, but the QB calmly moving around and throwing it, almost always accurately. I also see Love getting knocked down after the throw a lot, probably even more than Rodgers, so far without consequence meaning Love, thankfully, is pretty durable.
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    JT O’Sullivan, when breaking down Love, noticed Tom. He said, “is their starting RT out? That guy is small, it looks like they have a linebacker playing tackle”

    I think part of that is the number is a bit confusing, but the other part is he’s actuallly small.


    He’s a heck of a player though. Bosa isnt his ideal matchup. Most of the big names he’s shut down have been lanky guys. Bosa is more of a power guy.
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