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    Quote Originally Posted by King Friday View Post
    RBs are not a dime a dozen, especially in the Shanahan offense. The Packers are in win now mode, and putting all your eggs in an unproven rookie behind Jones, who is incredibly fragile, would be a huge risk.
    Disagree. Both Shanahans have been able to do just fine with who dats at RB. Olandis Gary, Terrell Davis, Gary Anderson, Philip Linsley, etc. in Denver. At SF - Elijah Mitchell has been fine for them. Jeff Wilson, Raheem Mostert, etc have done fine in SF. McCaffrey takes their offense to a different level, but he'd do that anywhere. Not saying the RB doesn't matter, but if they are a fit for the offense they will do fine without being a star.

    I'd also say they aren't in win-now mode - their window really opens in 2025. Winning last season speeds up the expectations, but they still have cap hits to unwind and they have a LOT of young players. This isn't like the 2021-22 run it back teams...those were Win-Now because they had a lot of older guys and pushed contract money out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    Disagree. Both Shanahans have been able to do just fine with who dats at RB. Olandis Gary, Terrell Davis, Gary Anderson, Philip Linsley, etc. in Denver. At SF - Elijah Mitchell has been fine for them. Jeff Wilson, Raheem Mostert, etc have done fine in SF. McCaffrey takes their offense to a different level, but he'd do that anywhere. Not saying the RB doesn't matter, but if they are a fit for the offense they will do fine without being a star.

    I'd also say they aren't in win-now mode - their window really opens in 2025. Winning last season speeds up the expectations, but they still have cap hits to unwind and they have a LOT of young players. This isn't like the 2021-22 run it back teams...those were Win-Now because they had a lot of older guys and pushed contract money out.
    Those were not just run-of-the-mill RB’s in their prime. TD is in the Hall of Fame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Friday View Post
    RBs are not a dime a dozen, especially in the Shanahan offense. The Packers are in win now mode, and putting all your eggs in an unproven rookie behind Jones, who is incredibly fragile, would be a huge risk.
    Not to that I ain’t dig the Jacobs signing - dude was on my 2019 “Mastery Mockery of a Draft.” But a long ass time ago, Packers won a Super Bowl with a rookie 6th rounder named James Starks as their featured back.
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    Jones being released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Jones being released.
    If true, the saying "the best ability is availability" is still true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Jones being released.
    Loyalty in the NFL (or McDonalds or Walmart or name-any-corporation) ain’t no bitch. Bitches tend to be loyal to their “masters.” NFL owners, not so much.

    Loyal players are like Jones are being discarded like trash by the pig-owners when they’re old and impotent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Loyalty in the NFL (or McDonalds or Walmart or name-any-corporation) ain’t no bitch. Bitches tend to be loyal to their “masters.” NFL owners, not so much.

    Loyal players are like Jones are being discarded like trash by the pig-owners when they’re old and impotent.
    Lets all weep for poor old Aaron Jones and his $34,688,273 that he has collected from the Green Bay Packers.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkey View Post
    Lets all weep for poor old Aaron Jones and his $34,688,273 that he has collected from the Green Bay Packers.......
    I don't weep, certainly not for this reason. He was a class act and a dynamic player for the team. Also a role model for those young players on offense. That has value and will be missed.

    I don't think swapping Jacobs for Jones is that great of a trade off. Here's hoping Jacobs can rediscover his 2022 magic. He's had more carries in less pro seasons than Jones, and this last year didn't look good. Hard to tell with the Raiders because the McDaniels/QB situation was bad.
    Not a big fan of signing a RB in FA, especially one with wear and tear coming off a down year to a $48M deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    I don't weep, certainly not for this reason. He was a class act and a dynamic player for the team. Also a role model for those young players on offense. That has value and will be missed.

    I don't think swapping Jacobs for Jones is that great of a trade off. Here's hoping Jacobs can rediscover his 2022 magic. He's had more carries in less pro seasons than Jones, and this last year didn't look good. Hard to tell with the Raiders because the McDaniels/QB situation was bad.
    Not a big fan of signing a RB in FA, especially one with wear and tear coming off a down year to a $48M deal.
    This is the take with which I agree.

    Man, it’s a cold world. Aaron Jones was class, and a real difference-maker, on and off the field.

    And Jacobs got more wear and tear in terms of numbers of carries, and had a bad year last year.

    Me no like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    This is the take with which I agree.

    Man, it’s a cold world. Aaron Jones was class, and a real difference-maker, on and off the field.

    And Jacobs got more wear and tear in terms of numbers of carries, and had a bad year last year.

    Me no like.
    To be fair: Everyone playing for McDaniels had a bad year last year. Jacobs was better after Pearce took over.

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    Loved Aaron Jones. Good Packer, played well when healthy.
    Not his fault he signed a large contract that he most likely couldn’t earn which was evident last year. Not our fault for cutting him.

    He is simply not worth north of $10M+ this upcoming year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
    Loved Aaron Jones. Good Packer, played well when healthy.
    Not his fault he signed a large contract that he most likely couldn’t earn which was evident last year. Not our fault for cutting him.

    He is simply not worth north of $10M+ this upcoming year.
    And I have to give Gutekunst a lot of respect for having the balls to pull the plug.

    Watch out, NFL. Packers are serious this year.

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    Packers sign Xavier McKinney to 4 year, 68M contract. No word yet on guaranteed money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Packers sign Xavier McKinney to 4 year, 68M contract. No word yet on guaranteed money.
    Wow. They have invested a lot in this defense from both free agency and draft picks.

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    Jacobs will need to be close to the 2022 Jacobs for this move to pan out now. Interesting to see what contending team is willing to pay Jones a lot of cash. Can’t see him playing for the Panthers.
    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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    I’m certain we’ll be drafting one or more RB’s. Packers want at least one veteran at the position. Makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
    I’m certain we’ll be drafting one or more RB’s. Packers want at least one veteran at the position. Makes sense.
    I agree and I'm thinking it's a high pick - Round 2 or 3.

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    Remember a couple of months ago, when Hafley was asked to describe what kind of safety he most wanted?

    "I want a guy who can erase things—we've got to eliminate explosive plays when we play this defense," said Hafley. "If a run hits up the middle, this guy has got to come out of the middle of the field with his hair on fire and has got to be able to get a guy down."

    "I think that position has to be a guy with high ball production, meaning he's got be able to intercept the ball."
    Apparently Daddy Gutekunst heard you, coach.

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    Apparently the Jacobs deal has $12M guaranteed, so I bet it's really more like a 2 year deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    Disagree. Both Shanahans have been able to do just fine with who dats at RB. Olandis Gary, Terrell Davis, Gary Anderson, Philip Linsley, etc. in Denver. At SF - Elijah Mitchell has been fine for them. Jeff Wilson, Raheem Mostert, etc have done fine in SF. McCaffrey takes their offense to a different level, but he'd do that anywhere. Not saying the RB doesn't matter, but if they are a fit for the offense they will do fine without being a star.

    I'd also say they aren't in win-now mode - their window really opens in 2025. Winning last season speeds up the expectations, but they still have cap hits to unwind and they have a LOT of young players. This isn't like the 2021-22 run it back teams...those were Win-Now because they had a lot of older guys and pushed contract money out.
    Those were not just run-of-the-mill RB’s in their prime. TD is in the Hall of Fame.

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