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    In a perfect world, here’s the ultimate cap manipulation Super Bowl

    Your team falls apart
    You have the most cap space in the league and few long term deals
    You front load with yearly guarantees vs signing bonus
    You draft your star QB
    You have epic drafts with tons of talent
    You fill in the missing pieces with FA
    You start to backload


    Boom, 10 year run of dominance
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    Well, if as run said, we go "dumpster diving," then let's pick up guys like Devondre Campbell a few years ago, and Rasul Douglas.

    Who said dumpster diving can't be profitable?

    You just have to have the scouts and the resources for them to do the work.

    The Lions have not done as well in this area because all the scouts were fighting to see who got to do the background interview with Aiden Hutchinson's mom.

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    Packers Strength and conditioning coordinator Chris Gizzi has been fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Packers Strength and conditioning coordinator Chris Gizzi has been fired.
    Hopefully they will get someone who knows about preventative hamstring injuries.

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    Packers have signed a kicker. Not wasting any time sending a message.

    https://packerswire.usatoday.com/202...source=twitter

    The Green Bay Packers are signing kicker Jack Podlesny to the offseason 90-man roster, according to Bill Huber of Packer Central.

    Coach Matt LaFleur said the Packers were open to competition at kicker for Anders Carlson, who missed a 41-yard field goal during the team’s NFC Divisional Round loss to the San Francisco 49ers and ended the season with misses in 10 of the final 12 games, including the postseason.

    For now, the competition will be Podlesny, who went undrafted out of Georgia in 2023. He spent part of training camp with the Minnesota Vikings but was released in mid-August.

    The Packers worked out Podlesny (along with Parker White) in September.

    Over three seasons at Georgia, Podlesny made 60 of 73 field goals (82.2 percent) and 182 of 184 extra points (98.9). During his redshirt senior season in 2022, Podlesny missed only four kicks (26 of 29 on field goals, 73 of 74 on extra points). During the College Football Playoffs in 2022, he made 3-of-5 field goals and 12-of-13 extra points. He missed from 47 yards and 52 yards but his extra point gave Georgia a 42-41 win over Ohio State in the semifinal.

    Podlesny, a two-time national champion at Georgia, participated at the Senior Bowl ahead of the 2023 draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Packers have signed a kicker. Not wasting any time sending a message.

    https://packerswire.usatoday.com/202...source=twitter

    From https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...t-team-all-sec
    As a redshirt senior, Podlesny was named both a First-Team All-SEC kicker and the SEC’s Special Teams Player of the Year. His career totals at Georgia were 61 field goals made out of 74 attempts (82 percent) with a 64 percent touchback percentage (86 of 134). For perspective, Carlson was 79 of 110 (72 percent) on field goals with a 58 percent touchback percentage (183 of 313) during his SEC career.
    Per wikipedia (I know I know) here's Mason Crosby's college numbers:
    66 of 88 FG (75%), 109 of 117 XP (93.2%) and138 TB on 203 KOs over 50 games, with a reputation for kicking in the clutch (10/10 FG in last 8.5 minutes). Also hit FGs of 56, 58 and 60 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Packers have signed a kicker. Not wasting any time sending a message.

    https://packerswire.usatoday.com/202...source=twitter
    This guy's impressive on paper, and in the SEC, same as Carlson - not like he's doing it against crap opponents
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    This guy's impressive on paper, and in the SEC, same as Carlson - not like he's doing it against crap opponents
    Does the opponent matter when you’re kicking field goals? I would think your snapper and holder are more impactful than whoever is lined up on the other side. I suppose the one block a year could factor in, but barely.
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    There's just so much more pressure on a kicker in the NFL than there is on kickers in college. Every kick is magnified because the games are closer. Packers had 8 games this year decided by 4 points or less. You don't really know what you have in a kicker going from college to the NFL until the pressure is on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    There's just so much more pressure on a kicker in the NFL than there is on kickers in college. Every kick is magnified because the games are closer. Packers had 8 games this year decided by 4 points or less. You don't really know what you have in a kicker going from college to the NFL until the pressure is on.
    Agree. there's a lot of scrutiny and pressure.
    Also the hashes are different in pros, the size and speed of the players too (obvs).


    Does the opponent matter when you’re kicking field goals? I would think your snapper and holder are more impactful than whoever is lined up on the other side. I suppose the one block a year could factor in, but barely.
    I don't think so, unless you are facing a really clever ST coach who schemes up wacky block or return calls.
    I would think things like weather conditions, field conditions, and even altitude would be more important.
    The kicking "operation" - snapper & holder - are most important. We learned that from Bojorquez and Hunter Bradley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    There's just so much more pressure on a kicker in the NFL than there is on kickers in college. Every kick is magnified because the games are closer. Packers had 8 games this year decided by 4 points or less. You don't really know what you have in a kicker going from college to the NFL until the pressure is on.
    That, and the NFL use of the k-ball for kicking plays. Some college kickers have difficulty adapting to it mentally and/or physically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    That, and the NFL use of the k-ball for kicking plays. Some college kickers have difficulty adapting to it mentally and/or physically.
    Our long snapper made it look like the KY ball all season (not to be confused with KY the rat member).
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    Yeah, that pressure was what I was talking about. Georgia against some other high level SEC team is about the nearest you can get to the way it is in the NFL.

    Bringing in this guy is a start, but I hope they bring in several more and start the competition out even, no advantage for Carlson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Yeah, that pressure was what I was talking about. Georgia against some other high level SEC team is about the nearest you can get to the way it is in the NFL.

    Bringing in this guy is a start, but I hope they bring in several more and start the competition out even, no advantage for Carlson.
    The NFL is a completely results driven institution. Whomever can kick the best will get the job.

    High drafted players may get preferential treatment the first year and a half but after that if he can't get it done, the coach isn't going to put someone out there who is going to lose games and possible cost the coach his career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    The NFL is a completely results driven institution. Whomever can kick the best will get the job.

    High drafted players may get preferential treatment the first year and a half but after that if he can't get it done, the coach isn't going to put someone out there who is going to lose games and possible cost the coach his career.
    For once, I agree with you. Also, I agree with RG who agreed with bobblehead about Kenny Clark. It must be my day to be agreeable hahahaha.
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    Clark is signed through next year. He’ll be 29 during his last season. There are still 40M dollars left to absorb in cap hit.

    I’m with Joe that he’s probably due for a 3 year extension. Which is a 4 year deal including the last year of his current deal.

    22M is the going rate for a top tier DL not named Aaron Donald.

    He’s due 15M in base this year, so the up-front money will have to be a good chunk more for his agent to want to sign. We’ll say 40 of the 60 new is guaranteed and/or up front.

    3 years, 60M in new money
    1 year, 40M existing
    4 year, 100M total cap hit

    His current cap hit is 27M with dead cap next year of 13M


    Cap hits on the new deal would look like this
    Age 29 17.5M
    Age 30 22.5M
    Age 31 27.5M
    Age 32 32.5M

    At his age it’s a risk. Similar to the way Bakh was. It’s always risky to sign non QBs over the age of 30. But like bobble said, really good big guy DL play well into their early 30s.
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    MLF firing two of his four coordinators (DC, S&CC) is certainly putting a thumbprint on your operation. Here's hoping he makes the right hires.

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