They really don’t know much about a lot of these guys. It’s a small community so there is some knowledge, but really, when I went through the better defensive teams to see which young guys are being promoted fast, when the interview times came, that’s who was being interviewed.
Maybe to start the process it was just casting a wide net and Orr was one of the guys where they’re checking under each stone. But when they lifted this stone during the interview process, they were like, yeah, this is what we were looking for.
I kind of believe the agent source here. But it’s hard to know for sure.