Originally Posted by RashanGary
at least I'd want somebody who has shown success as a DC, either at a dominant college or NFL level.
I don't wanna throw darts at one of all these young guys like the Milwaukee Bucks did
Jim Leonhard
Ejiro Evero (Not Likely Available)
Mike Zimmer
Brandon Staley
Al Harris
Rex Ryan
Marquand Manuel - Jets Safeties coach
Jesse Minter - DC - Michigan
Wink Martindale
Chris Hewitt - Ravens DB/Passing Game Coor
Chris Harris - Titans CB/Passing Game Coor
Aubrey Pleasant - Lions DB/Passing Game Coor
Anthony Weaver - Ravens Asst HC/DL Coach
Leslie Frazier
Dave Aranda - HC - Baylor
Sean McDermott - If Fired
Mike Vrabel
Other
at least I'd want somebody who has shown success as a DC, either at a dominant college or NFL level.
I don't wanna throw darts at one of all these young guys like the Milwaukee Bucks did
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Here is a list of DC candidates around the league. https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...rs-news-rumors
No mention of Leonhard. Is he even pursuing an NFL job? Is he blacklisted because he was offered the Packers job and then turned it down? Or is it still early?
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Could be blacklisted since he went to the media. I saw that on Apckers Transplants.
Guys I really don't want at this point
STALEY----You are getting a guy here who is friends with MLF and to be honest has run a very similar defense to Barryball. He's a hard pass for me
Up and Comers---Truth be Told, I just don't have a ton of faith in our ability to select an upcoming stud DC so I want somebody who's been there/done that and you hand the keys to. The MIlwuakee Bucks through they struck gold; but he was junk. Don't wanna take the chance
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I am in the exact opposite camp. I'm tired of retreads, of guys running defenses that worked ten years ago but don't any more. The Packers need someone who can mix-and-match, adjust on the fly, zone and man, know when to blitz and when not to, understand that offenses have evolved and players play at a much higher level on offense than they did fifteen or twenty years ago. QB's dont' make the kinds of mistakes they made twenty years ago, at least not as often. The bend-but-don't-break don't work no more.
Besides, Bretsky, you used to drool if the Packers were interested in anyone the Patriots had interviewed. You thought the Patriots walked on water. And the Pats interviewed this guy.
I do think offenses perform at a higher, more consistent level than they did twenty years ago. You can't wait around for them to make a mistake by letting them slow-walk it (or in Barry's case fast-walk it) down the field.
As for the "hating-50-year-old-white-guys" thing, once you hit sixty, you're like everybody's grandpa and it's all good. So maybe hiring Rex Ryan could work out, too. But I'd like the young buck.
Man, I am fired up for a young guy. Besides, the Flower seems to do better hiring young, unproven guys (Stenavich) than retreads (Barry). So let's go big and let the kid do it. Warby Parker it is, baby! Hire that guy!
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STUD LIST
Rey Ryan (and bring in Jimmy as a coach to assist)
Mike Zimmer
JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY (Hope Flower does not neglect him since he turned it down once; sounds like Phily wanted him last year)
Wink Martindal
Ejaro Evero (he's clearly my #5 but my view of him has grown to where I'd be happy with him)
I THINK these are guys above who you can hand the keys to the defense and let them run the show
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Andrew Mertig
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Based on two separate sources, Christian Parker is currently in Green Bay, and I’m being led to believe has been offered the Green Bay DC job. No word on if it has been accepted.
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That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Id feel really good about this hire. Risky, but I like risky!
Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
Yea, I've been doing a little reading. I like the fact that he survived 3 HC and 3 DC in Denver and he is the guy they don't want to let go. I don't think much of Vance Joseph as a coach, but it sounds like he latched onto this kid as the voice he listens to. Usually guys like Joseph survive by recognizing who is smarter than they are and utilizing that. I'm almost hoping he is the guy now that I have done some research on him this morning.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
Andrew Mertig
@andrewmertig
Well, based on the new round of interviews this appears to be incorrect. I do apologize for anyone who was misled. This was a legit team source, so I’ll try to follow up and see what happened. But at the end of the day I was clearly wrong to post it. To clarify a few things I’m not “chasing clout”. I don’t care about followers or getting my name out there. I’m not trying to gain followers or monetize anything. I had some info that seemed correct, I didn’t expect it to blow up, and now it appears like it may have blown up in my face.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Meh, I am with Bretsky, just not a fan of draft-and-develop for a coordinator. F'ing this up sets them back a couple years. Lots of guys can look competent but turtle up when the pressure is on. You need someone that has proven to not turtle up because 90% of the time who the coach is doesn't matter.
Some information on Parker. https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...istory-broncos
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
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That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
IF that report is true, and GB only chose to interview "these" 4 defensive coordinator candidates, and offered this guy without even interviewing other candidates that are far more qualified...well.....Flower, that a serious F'CK UP.
It sounds like 2 teams have requested interviews for him. The Patriots, who didn't hire him, and Green Bay. Not too overwhelming.
I'm going to wait and see; I absolutely don't want Staley.
But I have no idea what this guy has over Al Harris, or Joe Whitt, neither of which I really want either.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I like it a lot. There is a huge amount of disdain and disrespect toward 50 year old white guys from the younger generations. This is a young, black alpha. Smartest guy in the room type, hardest worker. He has traits that naturally appeal to the young players. He’s young. He’s smart. He’s black. This is how to reach this crowd. This is the guy!!
Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
I don't care if he's white or black; it's kind of warped that you'd point that out in either a positive or negative manner. I just want a great DC
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
There is this disdain i see on social media toward 50 year old white guys. I just think there is more trust from younger people toward youger people, and non white people.
I mean, white guys are kinda ass holes a lot of the time. Lack empathy, etc.
Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
Patriots had interviewed Parker, but have promoted their DL coach, DeMarcus Covington to DC.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Here's another article on Parker https://theathletic.com/3053746/2022...condary/?amp=1
By the sound of it, he has a lot of good qualities, and experience with multiple schemes. I would have liked them to at least check out the Baltimore guys, but he should be a good DC.
Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!
If you spend any amount of time on Twitter, some black guy will say, hey, I’m so proud to be the first of my family to do this and the first black guy on this spot.
And it never fails, 50 year old white guys with Oakley’s telling the guy to shut the fuck up about the race card. Maybe they’re bots, but there is huge mistrust from the way these morons talk on social media.
Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
Parker, if he gets the job, will be a bold and exciting pick. He's worked under several coordinators in a short time. Mike Pettine in 2019-2020, Fangio/Donatell in 2021, Ejiro Evero in 2022 and Vance Joseph in 2023. He must have had some good reviews for Fangio to hire him as DB coach in 2021 after only 2 years in the NFL.
His connection to the Packers was probably through Notre Dame. He coached there in 2017 and LaFleur coached there in 2014.
He had a role with the Broncos in 2023 that involved more than just coaching DB's:
Vance Joseph speaks highly of him:So what kind of a coach is Parker and what would he run in Green Bay, if he were named the team’s defensive coordinator? There isn’t that much information about the 32-year-old who has yet to call plays at any level, but a few reports shed light on how well-regarded he is in Denver.
One of these comes from Taylor Kyles, a Patriots beat reporter, who had a conversation with Robby Davis, who covers the Broncos. According to Davis, Parker was key to transitioning the defense from the Fangio-style defense to the scheme that Joseph wanted to run in Denver. The Packers saw the mid-season improvement from the Broncos first-hand, as they were held to just 17 points only four games after Denver allowed 70 points to the Miami Dolphins in Week 3.
“He’s sharp, man,” current defensive coordinator Vance Joseph said of Parker on June 14. “He’s sharp. He’s a star. He is a great partner to work with. As a veteran coach, I’ve coordinated for about seven years now. My tape is out there, so I’m looking for ways to do different things.
“[I’ve been] speaking with Christian every day and bouncing ideas off him from what he’s done with Vic [Fangio] and guys in the past has been fun. [We’re] making changes and growing off what they did last year. He’s smart, he works his butt off and his players love playing for him. He’s a star.”
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That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
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