Not to be a fact checker or anything - I hate those things hahahaha, but there actually are (or very recently were) two Johnsons, both first name Anthony - #36 the Safety from Iowa State, and #40 a Corner from Virginia. There's also the UDFA LB you mentioned that we apparently just picked up, first name Deandre.Originally Posted by bobblehead
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The more I think about it, the more I think I like this. I say think since I have no idea about this dude, but on paper, it sounds like a really great fit. He blitz a lot, which I like. He plays press more than just about anyone, which I like.
Most importantly, it sounds like players are going to not have to think as much and just play. I like that a lot. Players will love playing aggressively for this dude and manning up. Nobody likes zone.
Press man gets eaten alive with rub routes. No one runs press man anymore.
If there are two WRs on one side, I’ll see one guy press and the other off. But pure press man. Offfenses have proven they eat it alive and it’s the worst coverage in football.
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Yeah, press man is only even a little bit good if you assume Jaire is back to where he was a few years ago.
Unless you have a truly super shut down Corner, preferably two of them, what seems to work best is what we did the last few weeks of the season, zone D with 2 or 3 deep Safetys.
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You had me at "The anti-Joe Barry".
Last time GB hired a DC they kept all of their assistants. Some wonder if this was at direction from the Flower
It would not surprise me if they bring everybody back again
I'd prefer fresh blood
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I think QUAY WALKER coudl kill it in this scheme if they let him roam the middle
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Back when teams played a lot of 4-3 base, Walker would have been a classic WILL. Not sure if Hafley employs much base at all. But I agree he can be very explosive in this defense if utilized the right way.
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Gute was talking about versatile players and he mentioned quay and then made a comment about him being special or something of that nature. I think Gute thinks there is more to Quay than having him responsible for a zone and reading run off that. The way I read the versatility part is that he can be used as more of a pass rusher who’s aggressive down hill. Because versatile indicates more than just one position and he’s only been used as a traditional linebacker so far. With very few downhill attacks on lineman as a pass rusher.
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Quay is my avatar because he’s the baddest player we’ve had on defense since I don’t even know who. Maybe Wayne Simmons.
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Quay is very much the same body type and athletic profile as Micah Parsons. I’ve seen guys similar athletes suck at pass rushing though, so it’s certainly not saying he’s anywhere near Parsons. There is a feel and an art to beating blocks. But you should at least try. He’s a rare athlete. See what he can do.
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Quay does seem like an aggressive and quick guy. Seems like he'd be good blitzing. Maybe it it's less read-and-react and more attack, Quay Walker will flourish.
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I absolutely hated the Barry hire when it was announced. It's on the record from the Barry hired thread. On this hire, I actually am on board with this one. The more I learn about this guy, it seems like it could be a real good fit.
Quay might end up as the strong side OLB in this scheme. Or maybe Preston can play that position. I would have been concerned years ago, but schemes kind of blend together now. This guy has a background in multiple types of Ds so I suspect he can and better be able to adjust to his on field talent. The most important factor imo is playing aggressive on 3rd downs. No more lining up in a way where we concede most of the yards and then pray we can make a tackle. Or playing the theory we have for a decade of hoping the other teams O makes a mistake before they march all the way down the field. Todays offenses are too good for that theory. You need to dictate the game to them.
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With this new DC and his exotic blitzes, Packers have gotta re-sign Nixon. Dude ain’t Wood as nickelback, but he sure as fuck ain’t a liability in coverage like Hyde and Sullivan, either. Plus, Nixion’s speed and willingness to tackle would be positives in the scheme.
Source: Me, Tank Elf Duke, former high school shutdown corner who shut down Darren Charles in a game.
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They need to draft Cooper DeJean and tell Nixon thanks for the memories.
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Recall how every time opponents needed to move the chains, they simply threw at Hyde and Sullivan? Sure, Nixon allowed his share of completions. But not with the same fuck up frequencies as Hyde and Sullivan. Nixon would make a good blitzer, I reckon.
DeJean? Ain’t he a character in Les Miserables? I haven’t started prepping for the 2024 “Mastery Mockery of a Draft” yet.
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For those of you Rats who, unlike me, actually pay attention to the details and schemes and players and know a little bit (again, unlike me), I have a question: from what you've seen of the rookie safety seventh-rounder, Anthony Johnson (I think that's the name), does he "fit" at either of the safety positions in this new scheme? As a former corner, I would think maybe he would, but like I said, I know very little.
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I would think he's best suited at either strong safety or slot corner. He has corner coverage skills and a willingness to hit. I'm not sure he's been asked to play single high safety either at Iowa St. or Green Bay, so hard to say if he could do it. Pretty good writeup on him from last year: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-iowa-...aft-board-2023
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