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    Sometimes teams drop linemen into coverage. When B.J. Raji dropped into coverage and ended up with a pick 6, everybody thought it was awesome. When Preston Smith dropped into coverage and gave up a 12 yard completion, a lot of people lost their minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    I didn't like that either in hindsight, but if you're gonna do zone blitzes - which Hafley apparently likes, using Quay Walker as a blitzer, etc., somebody needs to cover that short zone, and the way most zone blitzing teams handle that is with a D Lineman dropping back - as Preston would be in a 4 man line. I say use the element of surprise, and do what works. If P. Smith as a DE rushes the passer, it's not even a blitz.
    I was thinking more of a safety blitz or Cornerback. Someone who can get there quick. I'm not really sure what a zone blitz is.. You mean from a specific part of the field??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Sometimes teams drop linemen into coverage. When B.J. Raji dropped into coverage and ended up with a pick 6, everybody thought it was awesome. When Preston Smith dropped into coverage and gave up a 12 yard completion, a lot of people lost their minds.
    That’s cos ole Busari never lined up directly over Calvin Johnson or Andre Johnson or Chad Johnson or even Charles Johnson (former Pack 7th rounder).

    Barry had P lin up directly over Tae Adams and Justin Jefferson. Someone shoulda barked an audible in those instances.

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    Zone blitz sends one or more blitzers from coverage position and drops a normal pass rusher into coverage. Often the dropping player is trying to disrupt a quick outlet for when the QB reacts to the blitz.

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    As new DC Jeff Hafley builds his staff, two #Packers defensive assistants who will not return are passing game coordinator Greg Williams and inside linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti a source said. Olivadotti will join the staff of new #Seahawks coach Mike McDonald.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Sometimes teams drop linemen into coverage. When B.J. Raji dropped into coverage and ended up with a pick 6, everybody thought it was awesome. When Preston Smith dropped into coverage and gave up a 12 yard completion, a lot of people lost their minds.
    There is a huge difference between where Raji dropped back to verses Preston. Chicago was backed up against their end line. Packers knew the pass had to come out fast. Preston dropped near midfield and they didn’t have to worry about taking a safety so they could wait longer for the route to develop.

    Another strike against Barely who didn’t seem to take down, distance or game situation into his defensive play calls.
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    New #Packers defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley is bringing D-line coach Vince Oghobasse with him from Boston College, a source said. Oghobasse coached with Hafley with the #49ers and also spent time at Ohio State and UCLA. Oghobasse will replace D-line coach Jerry Montgomery.
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    Trying to summarize defensive coaching changes:

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    Hafley has considerable NFL experience assistant DBs coach in 2012 and secondary/safeties coach in 2013 with Tampa Bay. Worked under Mike Pettine in Cleveland in '14. Coached DBs in San Francisco from 2016-'18. Was co-DC for Ohio State in '19 and has been BC head coach since 2020
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    Packers defensive quality control coach Justin Hood is joining the Falcons as secondary coach. He’s reunited with Jerry Gray in Atlanta.
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    there WILL be changes to the #Packers defensive staff.

    This will including a shuffling of responsibilities among coaches already on the staff including an elevated role for Jason Rebrovich who was promoted to pass rush specialist last year.
    DL coach and running game coordinator Jerry Montgomery will not be back.
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    Defensive backs coach Ryan Downard and pass rush specialist Jason Rebrovich will remain on the Packers staff under new defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley, per a source.

    There also could be more who return, but those two are locked in.
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    As new DC Jeff Hafley builds his staff, two #Packers defensive assistants who will not return are passing game coordinator Greg Williams and inside linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti a source said. Olivadotti will join the staff of new #Seahawks coach Mike McDonald.
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    New #Packers defensive coordinator Jeff Hafley is bringing D-line coach Vince Oghobasse with him from Boston College, a source said. Oghobasse coached with Hafley with the #49ers and also spent time at Ohio State and UCLA. Oghobasse will replace D-line coach Jerry Montgomery.
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    Pretty big coup for #Packers coach Matt LaFleur and DC Jeff Hafley. They are expected to hire former #Dolphins LBs coach Anthony Campanile, a source said. The #Giants had interviewed Campanile for their DC job and the #Eagles wanted him as a linebackers coach, the source said.
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    So we get theirs and they get Joe Barry? Sounds good to me hahahahaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
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    Pretty big coup for #Packers coach Matt LaFleur and DC Jeff Hafley. They are expected to hire former #Dolphins LBs coach Anthony Campanile, a source said. The #Giants had interviewed Campanile for their DC job and the #Eagles wanted him as a linebackers coach, the source said.
    Damn! This one's a great hire! Gute, Murphy, and Lafleur are dialed in on strengthening this team top to bottom. Campanile is the kind of guy who can turn Quay Walker into a star. He was rumored to be a possible candidate for our DC position, and an early possibility to replace Hafley at BC. He's a young, very passionate coach with a good track record everywhere he goes, and I think our defense just got significantly better.

    That Mannion hire the other day is a brilliant move, too - a longterm investment in a very exciting new coach. I can't believe that one's completely slipped under the radar here, except for your mention of it the day it happened. I was tempted to start a thread, but I'm too new here so I didn't. I think he has a hell of a future, and he's getting a lot of buzz on some other forums.

    Hiring Oghobaase was something I found interesting. Lafleur must have a ton of confidence in Hafley, because he's completely invested in him now. I'm a little skeptical of Hafley, to be honest, because BC's defense was terrible under his reign, and I'm not exacly doing backflips at the idea of Hafley bringing over one of the key coaches from that defense, but I'm just going to trust Lafleur and Gute to know what they're doing. A lot of Lafleur's coaching hires have been mediocre at best, and some downright awful, so I'm a little nervous. But maybe he's learned from his early mistakes, and developed a better eye for coaching talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Tundra View Post
    Damn! This one's a great hire! Gute, Murphy, and Lafleur are dialed in on strengthening this team top to bottom. Campanile is the kind of guy who can turn Quay Walker into a star. He was rumored to be a possible candidate for our DC position, and an early possibility to replace Hafley at BC. He's a young, very passionate coach with a good track record everywhere he goes, and I think our defense just got significantly better.

    That Mannion hire the other day is a brilliant move, too - a longterm investment in a very exciting new coach. I can't believe that one's completely slipped under the radar here, except for your mention of it the day it happened. I was tempted to start a thread, but I'm too new here so I didn't. I think he has a hell of a future, and he's getting a lot of buzz on some other forums.

    Hiring Oghobaase was something I found interesting. Lafleur must have a ton of confidence in Hafley, because he's completely invested in him now. I'm a little skeptical of Hafley, to be honest, because BC's defense was terrible under his reign, and I'm not exacly doing backflips at the idea of Hafley bringing over one of the key coaches from that defense, but I'm just going to trust Lafleur and Gute to know what they're doing. A lot of Lafleur's coaching hires have been mediocre at best, and some downright awful, so I'm a little nervous. But maybe he's learned from his early mistakes, and developed a better eye for coaching talent.
    Hafley coached with Oghobaase with the 49ers. Hafley won't be trying to recreate what he did at Boston College which is always on the lower rung of the ACC. He'll be trying to create his version of what the 49ers had with Saleh.
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    Did ANYBODY ever bother to nickname him “Long Tall” Saleh??

    Looks like the Packers need to draft an inside linebacker or two. Also, I wonder how Rashan Gary and Lukas Van Ness feel about going back to a hand-in-the-dirt position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Hafley coached with Oghobaase with the 49ers. Hafley won't be trying to recreate what he did at Boston College which is always on the lower rung of the ACC. He'll be trying to create his version of what the 49ers had with Saleh.
    That's a good take on it, and there's no reason to doubt you're right. It's an optimistric take, but not a reach. Very reasonable expectation.

    I'm trying to keep an open mind on Hafley, but I'm going to have some reservations right up until we start seeing how well the defense comes together and performs. Best case scenario is that Hafley is a defensive guru who's just not head coach material, got "peter principled" one level too high, and was too overwhelmed with head coaching responsibilities to have any substantive impact on the defense. Because there wasn't much to like about that BC defense the last couple of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    Zone blitz sends one or more blitzers from coverage position and drops a normal pass rusher into coverage. Often the dropping player is trying to disrupt a quick outlet for when the QB reacts to the blitz.
    I can't recall the entire play, but when James Harrison jumped upright and took a step back in the Superb Owl and grabbed a pick 6 right before the half (I'm pretty sure) was a prime example of a successful zone blitz. QB made a hot read and threw it right at Harrison who didn't even have much time to drop back.
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    I'm keeping an open mind on the new DC; it was a great move for him because he was a sitting duck at BC who was on a fast track to getting fired IMO

    On paper I'm very underwhelmed with the hire. That is using logic.

    But I can drink the spike Kool Aide as well

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    The Packers have the last major piece to the new defensive staff now in place. Former Chargers DC Derrick Ansley will be the new pass game coordinator, per a source. There will likely be a few quality control or assistant position coaches added but all key positions are filled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
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    The Packers have the last major piece to the new defensive staff now in place. Former Chargers DC Derrick Ansley will be the new pass game coordinator, per a source. There will likely be a few quality control or assistant position coaches added but all key positions are filled.
    Interesting. He fast tracked to DC. Hafley specializing in defensive backs, kind of surprised his prize coaching hire has a similar background. That’s good though. It’s not going to hurt Hafley to be able to really focus on playcalling and strategy, especially during the season. And when teaching the assignments, it’s not going to hurt to have two guys with different angles of how they teach. Everyone learns differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Interesting. He fast tracked to DC. Hafley specializing in defensive backs, kind of surprised his prize coaching hire has a similar background. That’s good though. It’s not going to hurt Hafley to be able to really focus on playcalling and strategy, especially during the season. And when teaching the assignments, it’s not going to hurt to have two guys with different angles of how they teach. Everyone learns differently.
    Defensive pass game coordinators usually have a background of coaching defensive backs. Run game coordinators defensive line or linebackers. So no surprise there.
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