3 sentences, 3 truths. Of course, anytime someone's post includes some variation of "Bears still suck", they're going to come away with points no matter what else they say. There is no curve to that scoring system.Originally Posted by QBME
3 sentences, 3 truths. Of course, anytime someone's post includes some variation of "Bears still suck", they're going to come away with points no matter what else they say. There is no curve to that scoring system.
So, already the Bears will be on their third starting QB during the Jordan Love Era in GB.
Some things never change.
HOFer
part of me is a bit worried that the bears are gonna draft the top QB in the draft. the other part of me realizes that this isn't the first time they've drafting a QB high, and they've managed to screw them all up so far
plus celeb doesn't strike me as elite, and he has a very high opinion of himself, and might become a headache, like refusing to play for them, or demanding to be part owner (yes, he did say this was a requirement for the team drafting him, even though its against the rules)
Hey Rocky...watch me pull a Rabbit out of my hat.....
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
The Steelers hired Arthur Smith as OC, he got Tannehill productive for TEN back in the day. If they can get Fields to sit for a year Smith might be able to revive Fields' career. It's 50/50. Russell Wilson is a weird move but they need a competent QB and Pickett wasn't it. Wilson comes dirt cheap for PIT and might be a bit humbled after DEN, who knows. He started out trash but looked better from the GB game on so there might be something there still. I doubt Tomlin puts up with a lot of Wilson's weird shit.
Not surprised CHI dealt Fields, I think that was the general belief. Don't see how they trade down or not take a QB now. And yes, they have a recipe to ruin a good QB talent.
De'vondre Campbell had some things to say, mainly about Packers defensive coaching staff. Here's the link to his twitter account if you want to see everything he's responding to. https://twitter.com/Came_Along_Way
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Listen man.. There’s so much I could say but for the longest I just kept it to myself and kept taking the blame. I don’t work for the organization anymore so anytime I see some false information I’m going to correct it and tell the truth. If you don’t wanna hear the truth sorry
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Why yall keep saying I trashed the Packers?? I never ONCE said anything negative about the organization. Best organization I’ve ever been apart of at this point but it’s some coaches I lost ALL respect for
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Fast forward to 2022, 2023 season I tried to be a team guy and play within the system and do what they asked “Be more visual on QB and not look up routes” “Back up from LOS so I’m not pressing every WR or TE” Look at what happened. They had me, Quay out there looking clueless smh
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
The organization didn’t even call me to ask if I wanted to take a pay cut. They just released me after going in the media and saying me and Aaron jones were apart of the future plans. They could’ve just told me the truth. I could easily be bitter but I’m not.
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
Because we ran a split safety system meaning we use our safeties a lot in the run fit so if I shoot my gap before the safety triggers we can get gashed so most of the time me and quay were just tryna buy time for our safeties to get there. We don’t have MOFC structure
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
You wanna know why we played better??? Because I started going and having private meetings with Matt telling him we needed to be more aggressive. We needed more man and we needed to blitz more and what happened when they listened to me. WE PLAYED WELL AND WON ITS NO COINCIDENCE
De'Vondre Campbell
@Came_Along_Way
I love all the fans that love me. The 3 years I spent in GB were definitely special and I appreciate all the support you guys have given me over the last 3 years. Hope you guys enjoy your Sunday
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Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Wow, that is shocking.
I guess that reinforces some of the things we were seeing over and over, game after game during the first 2/3 of the season.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
Rasul traded half way through the season. Campbell obviously not happy. Jaire having an off year and then suspended a game. Kind of amazing they avoided a total breakdown on defense. I suspect MLF knew after the TB game he needed a new DC. Just didn't want to do it during the season, which I think was the right move.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
HOFer
unreal stuff
don't even know what to say about it all, other then it makes sense
and we all knew the defensive staff was a complete fucking joke. its nice to see some players finally coming out and confirming it. too bad it has to be from "former players"
sucks that it seems like some of the guys who might have had a problem with the shit scheme were punished or removed from the team (douglas, campbell, alexander)
shame on lefleur for letting that crap go on so long, but good on him for FINALLY stepping in and doing something about the mess
I remember a lot of us were starting to suspect that there was maybe some ugly business going on behind those closed doors the last month and a half or so, but I'm wondering now if it may have been worse than we imagined. Campbell clearly has a hell of a lot he wants to get off his chest; pretty good bet he's not the only one.
I wonder if we'll hear more. Players who are staying are certainly not going to open up as much as that on the record, and it doesn't look like we're going to lose many more in free agency. Maybe Savage will have something to say down the road (although he doesn't seem like the type), and of course in a few months there will be camp cuts. I think our best chance at getting bits of gossip and juicy hints will be as the season unfolds, we'll hear players say things like, "yeah, we really balled out, everybody knew what their assignment was and how we were supposed to do it. Been a while since things felt like that around here."
If it really was this bad, I'm all the more impressed with how much the team as a whole accomplished tis season.
And I agree with you - shame on Lafleur for letting this turn into what it really now appears to have turned into. One thing I've seen about Lafleur that I respect and admire is that he does seem to learn from his mistakes, even if it sometimes take a while. Hopefully he learned a big, big lesson from this one. Being a head coach is pretty damned complicated, and one of the true measures of whether someone is going to be good at it is how they learn from their mistakes and move on. Because one way or the other, they're going to make a hell of a lot of them, and if they have to keep making the same ones over and over again because they don't learn, their job is going to be a lot harder than it needs to be.
Especially ones like this, because this one appears to have been a big one.
Maybe the Steelers are just going to trade Fields for more than the gave up? I suspect Fields would have more value once the draft finishes and someone doesn't get their guy, or after a QB1 goes down with a injury
That would be pretty cold.
Wilson has a 1year contract. Fields in the last year of his contract, unless Steelers pick up 5th year option, which they won't. I think Steelers will use this year to decide which one they want to keep, and which one they want to discard at the end of the year.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Yeah, that's likely the case. I mostly thought it was an intriguing thought exercise. Trade for him at below market value. Talk him up, hope he does well in preseason and then trade him once his value goes back up for more. It's like flipping a house with only a few low cost cosmetic changes.
Or . . . . .
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
The Bears reached a new level of stupid even for them by trading Fields, and trading him so cheap just compounds it. Yes, I sort of agree that the Steelers could and maybe would retrade him kinda like house-flipping. The more likely scenario, though, is that they let Wilson and Fields compete, and Fields wins as their QB1. Meanwhile, the Bears go with Caleb Williams or one of the other busts waiting to happen.
What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
Why do you think Justin Fields is better than Russell Wilson?
CHI has a GM/HC who are on borrowed time and a culture for not developing QBs. I think anything they did would be problematic. If they had any capacity to develop a QB - and maybe they discover it - they draft a QB, let him sit for at least 8-10 games (if not more) and shove Fields out there to play QB in the meantime. Then you either trade Fields at the deadline or let his contract expire and pray for a comp pick if you don't trade him. They aren't considered contenders for the SB, might as well figure out what you have and try to develop your young talent.
As it is, they are definitely taking a QB and will start them right away. I'm not sure if they have the support structure to succeed. I hope not since it's the Bears but I also hate to see a young player's career get smashed by a garbage organization. (The consolation is at least they'll be very rich)
His arm and his legs. Wilson had great mobility and a fairly strong arm 5 or 10 years ago but he sure didn't display much of that last year in Denver. Fields' intelligence level has been questioned, but he's probably second only to Lamar Jackson physically. And the brain thing could just as well have been either Bear coaching or media exaggeration.
I agree with you, they are almost certainly gonna take a QB at the top of the draft. I also agree about that "culture for not developing QBs". However, this current vaunted crop of QBs to me don't seem all that hot anyway.
The major fact you forgot to post is, of course, that THE BEARS STILL SUCK.
What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
It's not "media exaggeration"; just watch the man play with your own eyes. You don't need the evil media to tell you whether or not he can play football, he shows you himself, firsthand. All you need to do is watch.
It isn't even his intelligence, per se. He's reportedly a very, very bright guy. The problem appears to be that he simply can't make good decisions under pressure. That happens, sometimes. He reminds me a little of Daunte Culpepper - fantastic tool set, but when the ball is snapped, everything that happens the next 2-5 seconds happens faster than he's able to figure out. Unlike Fields, Culppepper was dumb as a brick to begin with, of course, so the comparison only goes so far, but the result is similar - the game just happens faster than they're capable of processing it.
There's no shame in it. Playing quarterback in the NFL is one of the most difficult jobs in sports, and only a tiny fraction of men ever truly master it. There are a lot of guys with enough raw athletic ability and basic intelligence that they can get by at quarterback all the way through college, but the NFL is a whole different world. I'm a really bright guy too in terms of IQ and various demonstrated abilities, and a really good athlete - football, hockey, and basketball, all sports where you need to be able to think very quickly. And they always came naturally to me. But playing quarterback?? Never in a million years could I have even dreamed of playing QB in the NFL, anymore than I could sprout wings and fly to the Moon.
I've sometimes wondered what might have happened if a guy like Fields had come up through Green Bay's system; if he'd gone a year earlier, and we'd drafted him instead of Love. Would 3 years of Tom Clements standing next to him on the sideline every Sunday watching Aaron Rodgers have made things any different? I dunno. We never will. But I think it might have been possible.
My first guess is that Aurther Smith thinks he may be able salvage Fields if he can work with him for a year with no pressure in games. The physical talent is undeniable.
My second guess is that Campbell is about 30% sour grapes over being cut and being hung out to dry covering a really good WR one on one. He is about 70% right that Barry fucking sucked and was the sole reason for anything bad happening on the planet.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
Now I want to know which Packerrat was actuallly DeVondre Campbell.
Gotta be someone who doesn't know grammar very well. That eliminates about two-thirds of the Packerrats. UNLESS Devondre's tweets - or whatever they're called now - are deliberately poorly written so he can cover up his Packerrats identity.
Okay, so which one of you is Devondre Campbell?
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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