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    I dunno about signing two guys, but I think, given how many safeties have been let go now, that they ought to be able to get someone who'll be an upgrade from what they put out there last year. After all the releases, it's hard to imagine Savage getting some big contract somewhere.

    If they can sign a safety and either a running back or a linebacker, then they'd go into the draft with fewer pressing needs.

    I'm still hoping they re-sign Kesean Nixon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    I dunno about signing two guys, but I think, given how many safeties have been let go now, that they ought to be able to get someone who'll be an upgrade from what they put out there last year. After all the releases, it's hard to imagine Savage getting some big contract somewhere.

    If they can sign a safety and either a running back or a linebacker, then they'd go into the draft with fewer pressing needs.

    I'm still hoping they re-sign Kesean Nixon.
    i like the idea of signing a safety , then drafting another one high

    with so many vet safeties hitting free agencies, that should drive the price down for them. you might be able to sign a second vet for dirt cheap to be a backup/ possible starter

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    Ian Rapoport
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    Sources: The #Broncos are in the process of trading star WR Jerry Jeudy to the #Browns, as Denver tries to stockpile draft picks & Cleveland adds a weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
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    Sources: The #Broncos are in the process of trading star WR Jerry Jeudy to the #Browns, as Denver tries to stockpile draft picks & Cleveland adds a weapon.
    Not surprising. The Broncos are fucked for the next couple of years while they get Russel off their salary cap. They aren't going to be able to sign contracts and have the time to wait for their new QB to develop. Their window isn't even going to start to open for 2-3 years.

    Might as well get as much good young talent as possible and let it develop over the next couple of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Ian Rapoport
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    Sources: The #Broncos are in the process of trading star WR Jerry Jeudy to the #Browns, as Denver tries to stockpile draft picks & Cleveland adds a weapon.
    only getting a 5th and 6th round pick in return

    broncos are a shit show

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    only getting a 5th and 6th round pick in return

    broncos are a shit show
    They need to create cap space to pay off the Russ contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    They need to create cap space to pay off the Russ contract.
    According to Spotrac the Broncos have $27M in cap space after the Jeudy trade compared to the Packers $13M. The Broncos will also have a $50M dead cap this year and I believe $45M dead cap in 2025. Packers have a dead cap of $12.5M for just this year but a looming contract for Jordan Love. I have no idea what the Broncos will do at QB as I doubt Jarrett Stidham or Ben DiNucci is the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatouille View Post
    According to Spotrac the Broncos have $27M in cap space after the Jeudy trade compared to the Packers $13M. The Broncos will also have a $50M dead cap this year and I believe $45M dead cap in 2025. Packers have a dead cap of $12.5M for just this year but a looming contract for Jordan Love. I have no idea what the Broncos will do at QB as I doubt Jarrett Stidham or Ben DiNucci is the answer.
    I don’t think that number counts Russell’s cap hit. Over the cap has them at $19M over after releasing Russell.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    They need to create cap space to pay off the Russ contract.
    They went "all in"....can't they just ignore the cap and sign Cousins?? I thought the cap wasn't real. I thought going for it was the only way to win.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Hmmm..

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    Veteran kicker Nick Folk, who leads the NFL in field-goal percentage over the past four seasons, is expected to test the free-agent market, per source. Folk made 29 of 30 FG attempts in 2023 with Tennessee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Hmmm..
    Do it. In a heartbeat.

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    Hmmm..
    If they were gonna have an old-ass kicker, why get rid of Crosby? I guess they tried the young kicker thing and he kind of sucked so there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Hmmm..
    I think Chase McLaughlin is available? He made plenty of FG/XP and would be cheap competition for Carlson. Folk will ask for more money.
    I doubt they spend a lot for K competition; I really think they want Carlson to win but also want to make him work harder for it than last year.

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    Why are you all talking about Denver being in cap hell because of the Russell Wilson contract when APB has schooled us all in the myth of the limitations of a salary cap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Why are you all talking about Denver being in cap hell because of the Russell Wilson contract when APB has schooled us all in the myth of the limitations of a salary cap?
    Cap is totally fake. Just think they coulda had BOTH Rodgers and Russ in trades and platooned them, alternating series to throw off teams. The cap numbers would've been fine as long as you kicked the can down the road until 2032 and signed nothing but street free agents, but who cares. That's all fake. Sign Dex Bryant and OBJ and bring back Jermichael. The salary cap is fake just like a credit card balance. Pure Fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    Cap is totally fake. Just think they coulda had BOTH Rodgers and Russ in trades and platooned them, alternating series to throw off teams. The cap numbers would've been fine as long as you kicked the can down the road until 2032 and signed nothing but street free agents, but who cares. That's all fake. Sign Dex Bryant and OBJ and bring back Jermichael. The salary cap is fake just like a credit card balance. Pure Fiction.
    Tex and Tank's cap cooking shack. Serving no one since 2008.

    Why do these two think teams are making all these moves to get their cap in order? Just for the hell of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    Cap is totally fake. Just think they coulda had BOTH Rodgers and Russ in trades and platooned them, alternating series to throw off teams. The cap numbers would've been fine as long as you kicked the can down the road until 2032 and signed nothing but street free agents, but who cares. That's all fake. Sign Dex Bryant and OBJ and bring back Jermichael. The salary cap is fake just like a credit card balance. Pure Fiction.
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    Whine all ya'all want about cap cooking, but it has served the Packers and most successful teams well for a long time. The few teams that struggle are the ones who think like some of ya'all in here - that they have to periodically (and stupidly) stop cooking and rebuild.

    What really kills success is bad luck, like when somebody they really expect to carry the team either suddenly fades (Wilson) or gets hurt (Rodgers).
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Whine all ya'all want about cap cooking, but it has served the Packers and most successful teams well for a long time. The few teams that struggle are the ones who think like some of ya'all in here - that they have to periodically (and stupidly) stop cooking and rebuild.

    What really kills success is bad luck, like when somebody they really expect to carry the team either suddenly fades (Wilson) or gets hurt (Rodgers).
    So the only teams that suffer are those who come to eventually “believe” the cap is real and foolishly try to balance the books?

    Wow. I just need to make sure I never start to believe the Drew Barrymore won’t go out with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Whine all ya'all want about cap cooking, but it has served the Packers and most successful teams well for a long time.
    "Whining"? Whose posts are you reading? I don't see anyone "whining" about cooking the cap; just saying that like any financial tool, it has to be used wisely and sparingly. Similar to credit cards, it can be a useful and important part of managing your budget, but - also like revolving credit - there is a risk. If you overuse it, it will limit your flexibility and limit your options for spending money on things in the future.

    It's just simple common sense.


    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    The few teams that struggle are the ones who think like some of ya'all in here - that they have to periodically (and stupidly) stop cooking and rebuild.
    Which more often than not are the teams that keep kicking the cap down the road year after year because they let themselves get trapped in a cycle where eventually their only option is to tear it all down and start from scratch - like New Orleans is going to have to do now, and to some degree Denver. Just like people who can't manage credit cards. They run up big credit card debt, when the car breaks down they have to buy used because they don't have enough credit to buy new.

    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    What really kills success is bad luck, like when somebody they really expect to carry the team either suddenly fades (Wilson) or gets hurt (Rodgers).
    First of all, bad luck is one of the things that can really kill success, but it isn't the one thing. The world just isn't that simple a place. Just like with personal finances, if you plan carefully and manage your budget wisely you can survive bad luck - but if you plan foolishly, you better damned well hope your luck stays good, because if it goes bad, you're screwed.

    Which is the story right now in Denver. What you call "bad luck" is what everyone else on the planet calls one of the stupidest deals any team ever made in the history of the NFL. It was a foolish risk, and it's going to cripple them for years. You can't just handwave that away as bad luck, they have nobody to blame for that but themselves. Smart GMs don't do things like put themselves into a position where they need to pray for good luck.

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