Because I am the culo rat.Originally Posted by MadtownPacker
Damn why you gotta chop down Frozen’s big post with little facts like that?
I didn’t even think about the Seattle years. Yep take out the 2 Seattle years and his last three after he left GB and it changes a lot. If we go just by the Packers stats it might get ugly.
Translation - Just like when you get stuck babysitting your bad behaving little nephew.. but you are an even bigger asshole
To my mind, Green was the better back. He could go the distance, and he could plow through the line and get that crucial three yards (unless he was tripped by one of his own guards). After he stopped wearing those forearm pads, he quit fumbling so much, too. If Aaron Jones had Green's size, he'd be Ahman Green but with better receiving skills. Both really good backs, but to my mind Green was much better. In fact, one of the best Packer running backs ever. Ever.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Ahman Green was freaky deaky and one of the most talented Packers ever.
Green Averaged over a 1000 yards a season during his time in Green Bay, he had 54 rushing touchdowns in 8 seasons along with 350 receptions and another 15 touchdowns. He only played in 5 games in 2005, and was brought back in 2009 and never started a game for GB.
2003 he pretty much put the team on his back when Favre broke his thumb and rushed them into the playoffs.
Green shouldn't just be considered one of the best ever in Green Bay, but should get recognition as one of the top 15-20 backs of all time in the NFL. Green is the all time leading rusher for GB, he is considered the 2nd best running back in the history of the Packers. I would say Jones is invited to the party, and even say he is securely in the top 5.
If you want to compare them in their 6 prime years in Green Bay Green has over 8000 yards rushing vs 5500 for Jones. Jones did lead the league in 2019 with 16 rushing TDs, Green had 15 in 2003. 320 receptions for Green vs 263 for Jones.
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Jones is an amazing running back. I'm sad to see him leave. I understand why the Packers moved on.
All three of those things can be true.
There's a fourth thing that may be equally true... it could be that the main reason he left was not because he felt dissed, or that he was greedy - it could be that he hears his clock ticking a lot more loudly than we can hear it, and realizes there's a good chance this is going to be his last "payday" contract. It's possible that he thinks however much guaranteed money he makes on this contract is the last money he ever makes in the NFL, and just couple million more dollars is all the bottom line he needs to know.
I've loved the guy and respected him too long to not give him the benefit of the doubt at this stage. I just wish him well, and hope he piles up 17 straight 100 yard games as the Vikings crash and burn their way to a 4-13 record (sweeping both the Bears and the Lions). He was a dedicated Packer who bled green and gold until the day the Packers told him they didn't want to pay him what he asked, and which point he owed the team nothing.
I have to say, though, that he may have outsmarted himself. The Vikings might just wear him out with 20-25 carries a game, whereas if he had stayed here and tandemed with Jacobs, he might have stretched his career out another season as a rotational back.
Green was the better back. Jones has been the best back since Green. Maybe Jacobs changes that.
Several Packer reporters have stated that Jones aggravated his hammy again on his last carry against the 49ers, and it was serious enough that there was some doubt about if he would have been available a week later if the Packers had won.
This likely influenced their negotiations with him.
I heard that too, I think it was the JSO reporters. That all sounds like speculation, but if his legs are fragile at this point they aren't going to get much better... and even with an offseason to heal, how long would he stay healthy?
And that is the downside. I loved the guy, I had hoped they'd bring him back, but I understand that his availability was an issue. It was a fairy-tale story that he was hurt so much during the season, then got healthy at the end and at times put the team on his back in the playoffs. Or at least was the reason Love had so many open receivers. But next year, he could be healthy the first eight games, but miss the rest of the season. Not such a fairy tale there.
I love Aaron Jones, but I understand why they did what they did.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
Yep. I read the Packers offer was 4 million with 2 million in incentives. I suspect the incentives had to do with number of games played. I can understand why the Packers would want that. I can understand why Jones didn't.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
HOW MANY GAMES over the past 5 YEARS did Aaron Jones and Josh Jacobs miss due to injuries ?
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I think age is a calculation when RB's nearing 30 years old have injuries. If they were close to same age, it likely would have turned out differently.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
HOFer
thats an interesting "leak" that the team put out about an injury that the vikings saw no problem with
almost seemed like the packers saw that the fans weren't too happy about the release, and decided to put this little nugget into the ears of the reporters that are basically on the team payroll
gutey might do a fine job at building a team, but he sure seems like a complete piece of shit the way he handles things
What leak? I saw him pull up and thought he was hurt. I'm sure the reporters saw it too.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Yeah don’t listen to Red, he would be jaded if a truck stop hooker didn’t fall in love with him. Probably thinks he’s like Gere in Pretty Woman.
If you go in the game thread pretty sure I mention Jones looking hurt in the second half. Something was off for sure.
And I bitched about MiLF not using him in the second half until the very end of the game when it was too late. Now we have an explanation of why we stopped doing what worked so well in the first half.
Was releasing this information a "piece of shit" move? Meh. Not if its true. The truth is simply the truth.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
Would the Vikings even gave known about the reinjury? If it's factual correct, I don't mind finding out about it.
Edie: double post
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