Sunday afternoons at the office are so much fun during tax time. At least I can read PackerRats for a couple minute escape here and there.
Sunday afternoons at the office are so much fun during tax time. At least I can read PackerRats for a couple minute escape here and there.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
Curious; which is a bigger punch in the Sack ?
Gutebag asking Jordy to come back at 2 Million / Year ? Which in retrospect, choosing to sign Jimmy for 10MIL/Year instead of giving Jordy, who wanted to stay in GB, a reduced wage of around 5-6..... who had 60 catches for a shit team that year, was a bad call
OR
Gutebag asking Jones to come back at 4 Million ?
The second call might turn out to be the right now. The first was not.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Nelson played the one season and was done with football. Cutting Nelson was not a mistake.Originally Posted by Bretsky
Graham played 5 more years (4 of significance), caught 160 passes, scored 20 TD. GB just paid him too much, as did the Bears for his two seasons there.
Last edited by Patler; 03-24-2024 at 11:55 PM.
The Packers never asked Jordy to come back on $2/year. In fact, they paid him $2.88 million for his 2018 season in Oakland.
They wanted him back at ~$3 million more than that, but the problem was the Raiders ended up paying Jordy about $10.2 million for one season.
If you're Jordy, do you prefer $5.9 mil from the Packers for 2018 (fair price), or $13 mil from the Packers and Raiders in 2018 (hilariously overpriced)?
Can't blame Jordy for taking the money, but don't act like Green Bay lowballed him. And Jordy actually played every snap when he dressed for games, unlike Jones.
Who is your source on what GB offered Jorday Nelson ? I thoght they had offered him 5MIL at the time too til this year but I think that was put out there by GB.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
If they offered him $2mil on a new signing, that's $4.8m total. How little do you think they offered him? 2 or 3 seems reasonable and a conservative estimate.
They wanted to Jordy to come back at a base salary of 2 MIL/year. Gutie has no interest in bringing Nelson back. It's water under the bridge now, but that is what I've heard a few say what he was offfered. A couple sports guys from the media, the most credible one of which is Wilde, who had a ton of ins with Jordy Nelson, Devonte Adams, and even Rodgers....although his relationship with Rodgers has soured the past 5 years.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I agree that letting Nelson go was okay, and Graham was overpaid.
Once-greats in the twilight of their careers with expiring contracts rarely resign with the same team, because they will be offered much less than the last year of their prior contract AND some other team is going to overpay for them. It's pride, and a last chance cash grab - I honestly don't blame them for it.
Letting him go get paid double and getting to live in the Bay Area is honestly doing Jordy a favor.
Jordy was a great player for GB, but he wasn't worth 10M in his last season. We're laughing at Lazard's contract and (no offense to Lazard) he wasn't half the player Jordy was.
GB's entire WR corps made $10M last season (lol) and is the envy of many in the league.
That is ugly. He sounds like he was a real Richard.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
Hard to believe Guter's going into his eighth year. Seems like it's only year four or so, and he's gathering the pieces for the next iteration of Packer greatness.
But man, he had some shit drafts early on, didn't he?
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
Funny, I recall that TT was the GM when the whole Jordy thing went down.
But I think he'd just stepped down, and the Jordy Nelson stuff happened a few months later.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
Don’t believe everything you hear. I’m a little skeptical of these versions of events.
I undoubtedly do not believe everything I hear
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Bretsky, I don't think they botched the Adams situation though. So he is pissed off, oh well. That doesn't mean they botched it. Personally I was on record that they should have torn it apart a year earlier trading Rodgers at max value, Adams at max value (which they may have done anyway) and moving on from Bak at the same time. It was clear we had cap issues and age issues at key places. I wanted to cut/trade everyone over 28 at the time, even Jones. We did all that over a 3 year period, and I still think they held on too long. Players are always butt hurt, but thats life.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
Honestly, I would not argue with anything you note. It worked out thanks to Gute hitting on a multitude of WR's. In a normal secnario, I don't think you let Adams walk but it did work out.
And yes, he is bitter
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I was really disappointed when Gutekunst didn't do something very much like that after that disaster in the divisional game against the Niners. That was the sound of our window slamming shut, and the time to start rebuilding was when Rodgers would bring the greatest return. Sell high; cash out those assets at their peak.
I thought we were going to time-warp straight back to the mid-70s. Up to that point (2020), Gutekunst hadn't shown much talent for finding talent in the draft, and I thought he needed as many extra picks as we could get to have a chance at rebuilding a team. When he didn't do that, I was pretty disgusted with him; thought he just didn't have the balls to make the tough calls.
The draft day jackpots he hit in 2022 and 2023 completely changed that. It turned out a lot better than any of us probably could have expected. But at the time, there were a lot of unhappy campers in Cheesehead World.
When I look at the Packers current situation, and I look at Davante Adams' current situation, I have a hard time coming to the conclusion that the Packers are the ones who botched the situation.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Bretsky just a fanboy cuck at this point and I can't be bothered to spend effort on some elderly hick who can't or won't count to five.
Daammnn!! Went hard on his ass! Can someone pick B off the floor and get him into an Uber?
I was Adams fan #1. Have to say without a doubt the current set would not be here if Davante had been signed to a big deal. We already know how successful feeding him the ball was. It just wasn’t a championship winning formula when going against the high powered teams in the playoffs.
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