Would you rather have Aaron Jones or Josh Jones

[call_me_ishmael]

Jones runs like he is 230 and indestructible. He takes vicious hits and I am surprised that he had stayed productive to the age of 30. The Packers paid him well. The tires are worn thin, and he will still have some great stretches for the Vikings, but he isn't going to be an impact runner for an entire season. If he plays 17 games next year I will be really surprised.

This is probably true. My thought process was that AJO is _that dude_ come playoff time, where as I'm not sure Josh Jones can get it done in the playoffs and is more than just a guy. He is a nice runner but AJO is a dynamic runner. I would be very comfortable letting AJO take it easy until playoff time. Give him the Kawhi treatment.

[Deputy Nutz]

But you don't pay two running backs a combine 24 million dollars, Jones needs to be in tandem with another back, and that back also needs to eat and be effective.

[bobblehead]

Man you guys are heartless. Give me AJO all day. Better player, better human.

I mean, Josh Jones is a safety so we have a bigger need, but he is a shitty safety so there is that.

Seriously, at least get the players right.

That said, I would have just stuck with AJ and drafted guys. But this heartless talk is just silly. Its funny how someone like you always points out the NFL is a business when players make business decisions, but when a GM realizes that 26 years old compared to 29 (30 in 2024 season) is night and day then he is a heartless bastard. Gutes did what is right for the Packers. That is his job. If Love turns down $40 million per annum is he being a heartless bastard or is he doing what is smart for Love?

[bobblehead]

This is the obvious path IMO. We shall see what happens but on paper I really looks like he messed this one up to me.

No, on paper he probably nailed it. But in terms of fans/locker room he probably got it wrong. I'll tell you what. If you want to place a friendly wager of $1 or $100 I will bet you Jacobs has a much better year than AJ next year...by much better I mean 20% more rushing yards and equal receiving yards. Jacobs has been much better than AJ over the past 3 seasons, all while playing on a dysfunctional team. Smart money says he is again.

[bobblehead]

I think that in the longterm interest of the team, Jacobs is the smarter choice. As for which of the two I'd rather see playing in Green Bay next year, I'm leaning toward Jones.

A lot of people are parroting the line that "they're basically the same back, Jacobs is just a younger version." They're not the same back. I've watched a lot of Jacobs tape the last 24 hours, and it's alarming how many times I see him tackled from behind in the open field or angled out of bounds. I'm not used to seeing that when watching Jones; Jacobs is a good back with a lot of top-end tools, but he does not have that second gear that Jones has. He's got an excellent burst through the hole (probably similar to Jones), but once he's in the secondary he just doesn't have that breakaway speed that made Jones so explosive. So many 15-yard or 20-yard runs that look good until you realize Jones would have busted them open for 30 or 40.

I think a lot of Packer fans have become so spoiled by Jones that we don't fully appreciate how special he was. Statistically better than Ahman Green in almost every significant category, but he made it look so easy I think a lot of us came to take it for granted.

But given a choice between making a move a year too early or a year too late, this was the better option. Gute has decided that our Lombardi window starts in 24, rather than 25, and is not willing to risk wasting a year by relying on Jones to stay healthy a full season at age 30. Porbably the smart move, one that will pay even bigger dividends in 25 and 26, but right now it hurts.

Jones benefitted from a coach that stresses and practices second level blocking. They have missed similar games the last 4 years, but Jacobs workload was far greater. I love Jones, but Jacobs is a superior back at this point....but probably not 50% more in salary superior.

[Sparkey]

Aaron Jones has great vision and plays like a beast, BUT he is coming to that age where rb's just become bad, or always injured or both. I also think, for a guy who only played a third of the offensive snaps last year, the pay cut ask was appropriate.

Josh Jacobs is a beast. McDaniels totally f'd up that Raiders team and Jacobs was much better when Pierce took over as HC. Josh Jacobs is like a combination of Thurman Thomas and Emmitt Smith. The guy has vision, great lateral agility and quickness and is excellent at one cut runs and a most excellent stiff arm. The only thing he does not have is elite speed. Color me EXCITED AS HELL that he is a Packer!!

Check out this read: https://www.nfl.com/news/back-2-campus/a-star-is-born

[sharpe1027]

Jones was a higher risk option. I think they can kick the tires in some young unproven backups during training camp now. With Jones they would have probably needed to bring in a veteran since even best case, they would give significant snaps to the #2 back with Jones.

[call_me_ishmael]

No, on paper he probably nailed it. But in terms of fans/locker room he probably got it wrong. I'll tell you what. If you want to place a friendly wager of $1 or $100 I will bet you Jacobs has a much better year than AJ next year...by much better I mean 20% more rushing yards and equal receiving yards. Jacobs has been much better than AJ over the past 3 seasons, all while playing on a dysfunctional team. Smart money says he is again.

Stats often don't tell the whole story. I believe AJO is the superior player and so does everyone else.

[George Cumby]

Aaron Jones has great vision and plays like a beast, BUT he is coming to that age where rb's just become bad, or always injured or both. I also think, for a guy who only played a third of the offensive snaps last year, the pay cut ask was appropriate.

Josh Jacobs is a beast. McDaniels totally f'd up that Raiders team and Jacobs was much better when Pierce took over as HC. Josh Jacobs is like a combination of Thurman Thomas and Emmitt Smith. The guy has vision, great lateral agility and quickness and is excellent at one cut runs and a most excellent stiff arm. The only thing he does not have is elite speed. Color me EXCITED AS HELL that he is a Packer!!

Check out this read: https://www.nfl.com/news/back-2-campus/a-star-is-born

Good read, Sparkey.

Tough kid. I'm glad we got him.

[George Cumby]

Stats often don't tell the whole story. I believe AJO is the superior player and so does everyone else.

Ok, you believe that, apparently Gute, who might have more information than us doesn't, as far as everyone else? Jacobs isn't quite as dynamic, but his skillset is really impressive. Also, addressing your 'stats don't tell the whole story', that's true; Jacobs is a much better receiver than his stats show.

[Joemailman]

But is it a year too late with Jacobs?

I think he's still got something left. This was last November 26.

[Ratatouille]

Interesting comparison in the link below. Jones has better metrics but is almost 4 years older than Jacobs and has missed games. I also think the Packers offense & O-line is much better than the Raiders and Jacobs will benefit from it.

https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/...to-aaron-jones

[MadtownPacker]

Stats often don't tell the whole story. I believe AJO is the superior player and so does everyone else.

Such a mamón!

Let’s see what this guy thinks…

[Joemailman]

Stats often don't tell the whole story. I believe AJO is the superior player and so does everyone else.

Maybe not everybody.

Andy Herman
@AndyHermanNFL
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Mar 12
Who will have the better next 2 seasons in the NFL?
Aaron Jones 9.5%
Josh Jacobs 90.5%
8,992 votes
Final results

[run pMc]

I think if you're going to give your RB1 18 touches a game, Jones will be better. If you're looking to get them 22+, Josh Jacobs is more likely to survive the season. Doesn't sound like much but it's 60 more touches over the season.

Jones is more explosive, but older and less durable. Age and injuries eventually accumulate on a player, and while the milage on Jones is low relatively speaking, he's probably not got much tread left on the tires.
If you're looking to add a player who is likely to get thru a full season and be there in 2025, you probably want Jacobs.

If they can find a Jones-ish back in the draft to pair Jacobs with they will be cooking with gas.

It's a little tricky comparing them because their styles are different. I'll be curious to see how they look in their new offenses.

[call_me_ishmael]

Maybe not everybody.

Yeah but that's a bunch of Packer fans. Does anyone really think that Josh Jones, who kind of sucked balls last year, was better than Jones, who was an MVP candidate down the stretch? I do not. Jones is electric. I bet if you asked who is the better player for 10 touches per game every NFL guy says Aaron Jones.

[Teamcheez1]

From the business side of things, Jones was injured most of last year and soon to be on the wrong side of 30. The whole contract matter is unpleasant, but that’s the GM’s job.

If Jones was worth more than $5-6M, then why did he jump at the Vikings one-year offer? Because Rosenhaus found out no one else was willing to pay him more than the Packers offered.

And by the way, he had to know he would never see the end of contract values that keep getting thrown around. I knew that when he signed the contract.

[MadtownPacker]

How the fuck can anyone take you serious when you keep saying “Josh Jones”? It wouldn’t be so bad if you were trolling but you’re actually serious and it is very sad. Please let us know if you need help we are here for you. If not then get the name right fucking clown!!

[sharpe1027]

Yeah but that's a bunch of Packer fans. Does anyone really think that Josh Jones, who kind of sucked balls last year, was better than Jones, who was an MVP candidate down the stretch? I do not. Jones is electric. I bet if you asked who is the better player for 10 touches per game every NFL guy says Aaron Jones.

What about the other 10+ touches?

[Teamcheez1]

How the fuck can anyone take you serious when you keep saying “Josh Jones”? It wouldn’t be so bad if you were trolling but you’re actually serious and it is very sad. Please let us know if you need help we are here for you. If not then get the name right fucking clown!!

Are you referencing my post or someone else’s?