View Poll Results: Which Jones do you prefer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
    Are you referencing my post or someone else’s?
    Are you the one calling him that?

    I’m talking about Partial, that freakshow is starting to make me think Josh Jones is a Packer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Yeah but that's a bunch of Packer fans. Does anyone really think that Josh Jones, who kind of sucked balls last year, was better than Jones, who was an MVP candidate down the stretch? I do not. Jones is electric. I bet if you asked who is the better player for 10 touches per game every NFL guy says Aaron Jones.
    10 touches you're probably right. But most teams, including Packers, want more than 10 touches from their #1 RB. And Jacobs can give you 20+ a lot more often than Jones, especially at this point in Jones' career.
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    Post this exact same poll 2 weeks ago and it's have been flippped.......11 Aaron....5....Josh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Post this exact same poll 2 weeks ago and it's have been flippped.......11 Aaron....5....Josh

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    Probably truth to this. I can't say what I would have said because the thought never crossed my mind before we signed Jacobs. I can tell you I really liked Jacobs and was worried about Jones durability and looming drop-off due to age.

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    If you wanted the poll to lean toward Aaron Jones, you shoulda worded it different. It's kinda a slam dunk that Jacobs will be better going forward - therefore, he gets the "homer" vote. If you said "who has been the better RB over the past whatever, 2, 3, 4, 5 years?, then we homers would probably say Jones despite Jacobs' glowing stats a couple of those years. Who you are playing with has a LOT to do with it. Jacobs doesn't need to be a workhorse RB like he was with Oakland. He will hopefully just be a change of pace to possibly the best passing game in the league with the Packers, like Jones was but healthy and available for more of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Post this exact same poll 2 weeks ago and it's have been flippped.......11 Aaron....5....Josh

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    I think I would feel the same. I didn’t like always pinning hopes on Jones’ health. As a FF guy did you trust him in there for you every week?

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    It's possible we'll be doing the same, pinning our hope to some extent on Jacobs' health. He's just more likely to stay healthy - hopefully. I wanted a fairly equal RB in the 2nd or 3rd round to rotate with Jones. Now I want the same thing to rotate with Jacobs. Braelon Allen would be my choice, but I suppose there are a few others who would fit the bill too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    It's possible we'll be doing the same, pinning our hope to some extent on Jacobs' health. He's just more likely to stay healthy - hopefully. I wanted a fairly equal RB in the 2nd or 3rd round to rotate with Jones. Now I want the same thing to rotate with Jacobs. Braelon Allen would be my choice, but I suppose there are a few others who would fit the bill too.


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    If he was still here, I still would. It sounds like he dug in his heels and refused to take a pay cut which would have amounted to about the same he is getting from the enemy, so fuck him, he chose to leave and chose to sign with the enemy. Furthermore, it seems like a strong chance the new guy will be as good or better for quite a few more years. So probably, good signing and net good all the way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Stats often don't tell the whole story. I believe AJO is the superior player and so does everyone else.
    No...clearly 32 GMs do not. Basically most everyone understands that Jacobs is the better player. AJO was a fan favorite and one of my personal faves, but he isn't a bell cow. Jacobs is.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Let me put it this way. Would MiLF have given Jacobs carries 12-20 in the 3rd quarter of the 49ers game? If the answer is yes, than I want Jacobs. However if I had been MiLF Jones would have gotten the ball until he begged me to come out of the game.
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    Dillion split carries about 50-50 the past several years. Forgetting injury risk, Jones presents a higher risk that they don't find a solid backup because he requires someone to split the workload. From that angle, perhaps they figured they needed to bring another veteran running back if Jones signed with the Packers and factored that into the amount of his offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    If he was still here, I still would. It sounds like he dug in his heels and refused to take a pay cut which would have amounted to about the same he is getting from the enemy, so fuck him, he chose to leave and chose to sign with the enemy. Furthermore, it seems like a strong chance the new guy will be as good or better for quite a few more years. So probably, good signing and net good all the way around.

    Dug in his heels? First off, he had a contract. Secondly, he was unwilling to take a slightly over 50% hair cut off his base (after he took a pay reduction last year). Gutebag asking him to go from a base of roughly 11MIL to 5.5 MIL is pretty out there. Can hardly blame him for saying no to that.
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    What about the other 10+ touches?
    He must have missed the 13 touches for 35 yards AJ had against Pittsburgh this past year. ( *Yes, all rb's have bad games.....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Dug in his heels? First off, he had a contract. Secondly, he was unwilling to take a slightly over 50% hair cut off his base (after he took a pay reduction last year). Gutebag asking him to go from a base of roughly 11MIL to 5.5 MIL is pretty out there. Can hardly blame him for saying no to that.
    Yes, you stated the facts correctly. The question is, was Gutekunst justified in asking him to take the cut, and should Jones have been open to doing so? I'd say yes based on age and injury status. A lot of big contracts are intended from the start to either be restructured or decreased or just terminated when the big money years come around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadtownPacker View Post
    I think I would feel the same. I didn’t like always pinning hopes on Jones’ health. As a FF guy did you trust him in there for you every week?
    Jones has cost me more leagues than any back I can think of. I'm not sure he ever won me one.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Dug in his heels? First off, he had a contract. Secondly, he was unwilling to take a slightly over 50% hair cut off his base (after he took a pay reduction last year). Gutebag asking him to go from a base of roughly 11MIL to 5.5 MIL is pretty out there. Can hardly blame him for saying no to that.
    We don't know for sure what was asked or offered, just rumors. The only thing we know is that if Jones was willing to take the $7 million he signed for, most of us would have liked to keep him.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Yes, you stated the facts correctly. The question is, was Gutekunst justified in asking him to take the cut, and should Jones have been open to doing so? I'd say yes based on age and injury status. A lot of big contracts are intended from the start to either be restructured or decreased or just terminated when the big money years come around.
    One of your better posts. You should keep them all simple like this. Gutes always has a right to ASK a player to take a cut. A player under contract always has a right to say no. End of story.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    We all probably have these fantasy narratives in our heads. Mine was that they'd restructure Jones, he'd take a bit of a pay cut, and they'd draft a couple of promising understudies in April. Then Aaron Yoda Jones teaches the younguns how to play football like a professional, and how to act like a professional. Meanwhile, Jones stays surprisingly healthy, and with The Flower parsing his carries carefully, he has a great year and carries the team to a surprising SB win next year while the youngsters show great promise.

    Then, just before the SB, Drew Barrymore calls me up, because Mad contacted her and told her about my crush, and she asks me if I want to fly out to Cali to watch the SB with her. We have wild sex before the game, watch the Packers win the SB, which inspires Drew to say to me "Do whatever you want?" and -

    Okay, I'll stop there.

    I just hope Jacobs is damn good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Jones has cost me more leagues than any back I can think of. I'm not sure he ever won me one.
    This is what I thought might be the case. He was incredible but consistency is needed.

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