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    Good evening guys. I obviously don't watch the draft like I used to. McCarthy to the Vikes is so-so. At least they retained their second first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    Good evening guys. I obviously don't watch the draft like I used to. McCarthy to the Vikes is so-so. At least they retained their second first.
    Vikings gonna steal DeJean from us?
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
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    Vikings gonna steal DeJean from us?
    No idea Joe. I don't follow this shit that closely anymore. I will say the lad that was interviewed just now sounded like Muhammad Ali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    No idea Joe. I don't follow this shit that closely anymore. I will say the lad that was interviewed just now sounded like Muhammad Ali.
    and his mom sounded like she had a few too many happy pills to go with a few too many glasses of wine

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    Vikings gonna steal DeJean from us?
    we can jump in at any time if we really want him

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    Dallas Turner

    Overview
    Long and athletic with the explosive traits needed to become an impactful NFL pass rusher. Turner’s first-step quickness and elite closing burst are important building blocks, but he still needs to work on his process from Point A to Point B. He hasn’t learned to create the space and angles needed to consistently attack the edges, but that should come with better hand development and a more diversified approach. A team would be wise to widen him out and allow him a better runway to ignite his burst and overwhelm tackles with his speed. He’s added 20 pounds since coming to Alabama, but he struggles at times to stack and shed run blockers or set a firm edge. Turner’s frame and game are much less developed than Will Anderson Jr.’s coming out of Alabama last year, so it could take time for him to make his mark as a starting 3-4 outside linebacker.

    Strengths
    History of playing for winning programs in high school and college.
    Sudden hands are first into blocker’s frame as edge-setter.
    Disruptive initial quickness to beat blocks and stop runs in the backfield.
    Speed and stride to stress offensive tackles in race to the rush turn.
    Builds tremendous momentum at the turn if allowed too much space.
    Possesses elite closing burst chasing down backs and sacking passers.
    Athleticism to soak up play-extending quarterbacks with his secondary rush.
    Able to peel off and drag running back into the flat in coverage.

    Weaknesses
    Below-average anchor to prevent being displaced by force.
    Needs better play strength to improve block take-on.
    Doesn’t always play with ideal urgency when not directly challenged.
    Takes too many shots at winning rush with speed-to-power.
    Needs to become a more skilled hand-fighter at the top of the rush.
    Rush is currently missing instincts and counters associated with high sack production.
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    Amarius Mims

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    Talented tackle prospect carrying a picturesque frame and exciting NFL traits. Mims plays with pretty good technique and is ahead of the game with hand placement. He has the size and bend to create movement and adequate athleticism to make blocks on the move, although he can be inconsistent in that area. He uses a two-hand punch that causes him to lunge forward a bit, but that should be correctable. It is very rare to see him clearly beaten by a rusher, and he has the recovery talent to do something about it when it happens. Mims has more development to go, but he’s a Day 1 prospect with the traits and talent to be considered at either tackle position. He has a high ceiling, but questions due to his lack of experience could temper early expectations.

    Strengths
    Outstanding combination of size, length and proportionality.
    Fits into his drive blocks with good bend and a lift for leverage.
    Plays with deliberate hand placement and runs feet through contact.
    Keeps weight on inside half when sliding out to rusher.
    Uses direct punch with inside hands and/or aggressive gather-and-snatch.
    Strong hands and pure mass help tone down power rushers.
    Adequate recovery tools to fight back when beaten.

    Weaknesses
    Very limited experience, with just eight career college starts.
    Inconsistent in sustaining blocks in the run game.
    Movements up to second level lack timing and accuracy.
    Feet get heavy when attempting to mirror a cross-face rush challenge.
    Needs to work on forward lean at the top of the rush.
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    Jared Verse

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    Talented edge defender with the field demeanor, athleticism and skill set to rack up statistics in key categories fairly early in his NFL career. Verse dominated at Albany and then showed an ability to do the same at Florida State. He’s twitchy and compact, with explosiveness featured at the point of attack and in his upfield burst as a pass rusher. He’s great with his hands and does a nice job of diagnosing plays quickly and staying out of the clinches of offensive linemen looking to snatch him up. Verse's ability to threaten the edge only bolsters his hellish speed-to-power bull-rushing ability to run tackles deep into the pocket. He can play up or down and should be in consideration for all defensive schemes looking to add a safe, high-impact edge.

    Strengths
    Thrives with winning first step and unstoppable energy.
    Quick to close distance and mitigate his length disadvantage.
    Controls bigger blockers at the point with leverage, hands and power.
    Instincts allow for rapid diagnosis and attack of play development.
    Advanced GPS into the pocket, with multiple available rush routes.
    Uses sudden, combative hand work to beat the punch and grease the edge.
    Bend and strength to corner tightly to passer at efficient angles.
    Instantly converts his twitchy get-off into a menacing bull rush.

    Weaknesses
    Lacks ideal size and length that teams covet.
    Unable to anchor deep when drive blockers get into him.
    Below-average footwork and wrap-up leads to missed tackles.
    Offensive tackles stall his rush plan with a firm punch.
    Has moments where rush wears down against size.
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    Troy Fautanu

    Overview
    Ready-made brawler without an ounce of finesse in his game. Fautanu has starting experience at tackle and guard and is well-coached, but he will default to unruly hand-fighting when his technique gets away from him. He plays with average hand placement and can be beaten by length, but his tenacity and footwork keep him connected to base blocks. He’s capable of getting to reach blocks in zone and chaperoning running backs wide as a pulling guard on the next level. He’s a pop-and-reset pass puncher who uses active hands and feet to help with extended mirroring he’s forced into. Fautanu needs to prove he has the leverage and hand quickness to play inside, but all signs point toward him becoming a good future starter.

    Strengths
    Plays with lateral hustle to make back-side and play-side zone blocks.
    Works to center and land with firmness post-contact.
    Generates push from lower half on down blocks and double-teams.
    Sets out to rusher with good lateral quickness and knee bend.
    Maintains active hands and feet to stay in front of the rusher.
    Keeps weight back to avoid being countered off-balance in protection.

    Weaknesses
    Longer opponents gain extension and rid him of block sustain.
    Run-blocking technique eventually gets away from him.
    Has issues with hand slippage due to inconsistent placement.
    Slow to fire his pass punch and rarely closes rusher down with hand latch.
    Gets beaten inside when he’s too eager and oversets the edge.
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    Chop Robinson

    Overview
    Edge defender who offers the type of elite athleticism we’ve seen from players like Micah Parsons and Myles Garrett. Robinson might not be as fast as Parsons, but he’s close. He’s ultra-twitchy with the explosiveness to get on top of blockers and overwhelm them in an instant. However, he will need to level up his hand skills and attack angles to reach his potential against NFL tackles. Robinson’s electric athletic traits alone should give him a floor as a good NFL starter. If he crafts a rush approach and learns to string moves/counters together, he could reach his ceiling as a destructive force capable of forcing teams to game plan around him.

    Strengths
    Possesses rare explosiveness and speed to overwhelm blockers across from him.
    Plays with natural leverage and powerful leg drive to create stress on blocker’s edges.
    Wicked pursuit speed reduces space for outside runners and quarterbacks.
    Able to do battle with big tackles and still set a firm edge.
    Slant quickness creates opportunity to disrupt play design.
    Tears out of his stance like a track sprinter into his rush.
    Exceptional lower-body flexion to dip way low and corner tightly at the turn.
    Finesse tackles without a true anchor will be found out by his bull rush.

    Weaknesses
    Relatively modest production totals relative to elite traits.
    Needs to work on technique and hand usage for block take-ons.
    Inconsistent keeping feet under his pads, leading to slippage.
    Hands and feet lack harmony as a pass rusher.
    Still learning to set up tackles and create his itinerary into the pocket
    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastak View Post
    Good evening guys. I obviously don't watch the draft like I used to. McCarthy to the Vikes is so-so. At least they retained their second first.
    seems like they got the guy they wanted and didn't have to give up a whole lot to do it

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