Official NFL Draft 1st Round Thread

[Joemailman]

penix JR goes #8 to the falcons????????

theres the first massive surprise

could the jets take JJ?

Vikings have traded up to 10..They will take JJ.

[Frozen Tundra]

Packers may have their pick of defensive players at 25.

Looking better an better. Or at least cheaper to move up a few spots; they wouldn't have to jump as high to get their premium DB.

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What did the jets get to move down one spot?

probably about a 4th

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gets got a 4th and a 5th and gave up a 6th

[King Friday]

Amazing that it looks like we are going to 12 picks in before a defensive pick is made.

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thats a boy?

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we can include a second to move up at any point now

[Joemailman]

JJ McCarthy

Overview
Enigmatic quarterback lacking the measurables and splash throws associated with early round quarterbacks but possessing elements that require more study and consideration. McCarthy lacks frame thickness and a plus arm. He’s fairly poised in the pocket but is average as a pocket passer. His ball placement and timing need to improve to help mitigate an average operation time due to a windup release. McCarthy doesn’t seek to play out of structure but is fairly consistent at making positive plays when it happens and ramps up his focus late in games and on third downs. He is confident and seems to have the ability to take slights and digest it as competitive fuel. McCarthy should continue to improve as a passer, but he fails to stand out in many of the areas that tend to be predictive of top-level success in the NFL.

Strengths
Plays with a chip on his shoulder and intensifies focus when needed.
Plenty of experience working under center in pro-style passing scheme.
Won’t hesitate to slide and find new launch points when pressure builds.
Adequate ability to locate throwing windows versus zone.
Makes drive throws between defenders with good decisiveness.
Delivers the ball smoothly on rollouts and in scramble mode.
One of the draft’s most efficient quarterbacks operating out of structure.
Toughness to deliver throws when taking a hit and squeeze out extra yards as runner.

Weaknesses
Sluggish getting through progressions and can get stuck on first read.
Modest arm strength might be magnified by windup in his delivery.
Ball placement on tape belies completion percentage on the stat sheet.
Leaves throws behind moving targets, allowing defenders to challenge catches.
Deep balls need to come out quicker and with more air under them.
Timing improved during the season but still crowds receivers to coverage.
Average escapability as a runner when scrambling.

[Fosco33]

My gut says JJ will be a good QB. Fucking Vikings.

[Bretsky]

I am very cool with either Barton or DeJean. Would prefer the DB; not excited about GB trading up.

If one of their guys does not fall into their laps, I hope they trade down

Worried Pittsburg will snag DeJean; he seems like a Pittsburg guy

[King Friday]

Denver would probably love to move down at this point, if GB was interested in moving up.

[Teamcheez1]

My gut says JJ will be a good QB. Fucking Vikings.

Kirk Cousins light. I’m not impressed.

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My gut says JJ will be a good QB. Fucking Vikings.

5 QBs have been taken so far

history tells us 4 of those will be duds

[Bretsky]

Let's ALL go to this F'cking thing next year !

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jets spend a high pick to protect a QB who will only be there for 1 more year at the most

[Joemailman]

OLUMUYIWA FASHANU

Overview
A toolsy two-year starter with loads of potential, Fashanu is still learning to be less mechanical and more instinctive with his play. At this point, he could impose his traits upon most collegiate opponents and stack the deck in his favor. As a pro, he will need to play with better control and more consistent technique to prevent being countered and beaten by NFL talent. There is still room to get bigger and stronger, but he’s already playing with good focus and drive as a run blocker. Issues with footwork and landmarks can be corrected with more coaching. He’s long and has really effective recovery agility to help keep his quarterback clean, but inconsistent pass slides and excessive leaning could make things harder than they need to be early on. Overall, the work ethic, traits and tape make it easier to project Fashanu’s continued improvement into a very good left tackle.

Strengths
Prototypical height/weight/length with proportional mass as left tackle.
Team captain; head coach called him a “high production, low maintenance” guy.
Grip strength can shut down a rush once he gets locked in.
Can swivel open outside half to mirror around the arc and keep the pocket closed.
Uses technique and bend to help stall rush momentum and drop anchor.
Fits up base blocks with good strike, leverage and drive.
Improved fight and strain in power swaps at point of attack from 2022 to 2023.
Controlled lateral slides help cut off moving targets as second-level blocker.
Length is best served as a recovery mechanism to corral leaky opponents.

Weaknesses
Inconsistent slide width creates inconsistent body control in his mirror.
Needs better patience and timing to eliminate lunging with his punch.
Forward lean into rushers will get him countered as a pro.
Must learn to step down to B-gap sooner to protect against T/E twists.
Oversteps landmarks, diminishing leverage and control as run blocker.
Needs to improve footwork/positioning post-contact to improve block finishing.
Struggles to reach back-side cutoffs due to faulty technique off the snap.

[Frozen Tundra]

probably about a 4th

God damn it, rewind isn't working for me on NFL network. But I'm pretty sure the Vikings included 129 in the 4th, and Jets gave back 157 in the 5th and 185 in the 6th.

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Denver would probably love to move down at this point, if GB was interested in moving up.

broncos pick is in

bo nix maybe?

[SkinBasket]

Kool-aid

[King Friday]

That would be quite a reach at 12.