Official NFL Draft 1st Round Thread

[Joemailman]

Drake Maye

Overview
Challenging evaluation with top-flight measurables and tools but inconsistencies that create a lower floor. Maye’s size and arm talent jump off the tape immediately. He can make every throw, but he will try to make throws that he shouldn’t have attempted. The gunslinger mentality creates a fearlessness that can turn into interceptions, but it will also allow him to win in tight windows and make splash throws that get crowds (and evaluators) on their feet. He leaves too many throws on the back shoulder or hip and needs to learn when to take some sauce off the throw to make it more catchable. There is an undeniable energy to Maye’s game that can create momentum or turn chaotic when plays come off-schedule for him. The combination of traits and tape make him a boom/bust prospect who might need patient management and coaching to help shepherd him toward his potential.

Strengths
Two years of starting experience and still very moldable.
Two-time team captain with prototypical size and frame.
Ball comes off his hand with tight spiral and good velocity.
Can expedite operation time and release when pressure closes in.
Unquestionable arm talent to connect from challenging angles.
Fearless passer with the guts and arm to whip the ball into tight windows.
Quick pocket climber with discipline to continue searching for targets.
Mobility to slide free of pocket traffic and toughness to go get needed yards.
Showed flashes of the clutch gene during his career.

Weaknesses
Struggles with the chess match against pressure looks.
Inefficient throwing motion creates inconsistencies in accuracy.
Receivers had to chase too many intermediate throws into the turf.
Leaves the ball behind crossing routes and RPO targets.
Can get uncomfortable when initial reads aren’t clear and clean.
Sixteen career interceptions were mostly earned with poor decisions or throws.

[Frozen Tundra]

RIP Caleb Williams. The Bears still suck.

Actually, they may have already started the process of ruining the poor bastard. Bears safety Jaylon Johnson was in tyhe press a month ago, warning Williams to "leave all that Hollywood stuff back in California, and humble yourself when you enter this room. don't be thinking you'lll be telling all these people who've been here for years what's what".

Not that Williams had been high-steppin' or playing the big shot in the media - he hadn't done anything. Johnson just felt it would be important to shoot his mouth off and keep the new quarterback in his place before he was even drafted.

Can you imagine a Packer veteran pulling that crap?

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marvin harrison jr to the cards

everything going as planned so far

[King Friday]

Just like last year…best QB went #2

[Joemailman]

Marvin Harrison Jr.

Overview
Harrison comes from impressive NFL bloodlines and possesses similarities that made his father, Pro Football Hall of Famer Marvin Harrison, special. Harrison can run but isn’t a burner. What makes him tough to handle is his consistent play speed paired with quality salesmanship in his routes. He’s able to uncover no matter where he’s aligned or which part of the field his assignment takes him to, and he is capable of finishing catches in a crowd. Harrison can be sudden while working possession routes, and he’s well qualified to beat any opponent with his ball skills if the battle heads deep. Harrison is a touchdown champ with a variety of ways to excel, and that characteristic figures to follow him into the pros. He has the traits and tools to win in all three phases of the route and on all three levels of the field. He’s a pedigree prospect and a Day 1 starter with high-end production expected.

Strengths

Exceptional production as a high-volume, high-impact target.
Runs routes with threatening pace and is sudden out of breaks.
Good rhythm and body control snapping off comeback routes.
Uses speed changes to create indecisiveness in cornerbacks.
Elite scramble talent to uncover wide open when play breaks down.
Plays with pro feet working his boundary catches.
Highly focused deep-ball tracker with above-average ball skills.
Can make late body adjustments with sudden hands to bring in the catch.
Elegant leap and spin to snatch throws over defender’s heads.

Weaknesses
Room for improvement with release against press.
Allowed grabby coverage too much leeway in disrupting his routes.
Needs better route efficiency without as much stutter-stepping.
Might not have enough blow-by speed to consistently outrun NFL corners.
Had uncharacteristic drops in 2023.

[King Friday]

All the crap I’ve heard trying to hype the other WRs…Harrison is going to be a HOF caliber WR.

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charges take joe alt

and he and his family don't look very happy

ok, there might have been a delay

[Joemailman]

Joe Alt

Overview
Long-limbed team captain with NFL-quality tackle play coursing through his veins. Alt plays a disciplined brand of football, avoiding penalties and working with fluid transitions from entry to sustain to finish as a run blocker. Alt is a capable drive blocker with the foot quickness to play onto the second level. He struggles to bend enough to compensate for his height and ends up playing with waist-bending and forward lean that can hamper his anchor against bull-rushers. Alt has quick hands and outstanding arm extension, promoting his ability to sustain blocks and redirect pass-rushers. He’s a good technician who carries himself with confidence from snap to snap. Alt clearly has the talent to become a Day 1 starter on the left side, but he’ll need to clean up his habit of leaning forward, or he could be in for some bumpy action early on.

Strengths
Father, John Alt, was a Pro Bowl NFL tackle and brother, Mark Alt, was an NHL player.
Creates pre-snap plan for combo blocks and is rhythmic getting from one to two.
Adjusts stride length and footwork to capture first contact with balance.
Maintains feel and keeps feet moving to mirror and ride opponents for block sustain.
Scores early with stiff right hand into rusher’s inside shoulder in pass pro.
Feet are fluid and instinctive to consistently mirror edge-to-edge rush challenges.
Uses arm extension to successfully steer arc runners and inside counters off the track.
Technically sound with good instincts to withstand attacks from twists.

Weaknesses
Gets off the snap with excessive forward lean in an attempt to lower pad level.
Leverage-based opponents can stand and stall drive blocking attempts.
Too much waist-bending and not enough chin-tuck in protection posture.
Beaten by late movement when feet start to sink too deep.
High center of gravity could make it hard to find emergency brakes against NFL power rushers.

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come on giants, take JJ

[Joemailman]

No trades so far. Wonder what Vikings are going to do.

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no need for a QB in new york, we'll just draft another guy for no one to throw to

[King Friday]

Giants wanted Maye. No interest in JJ.

[Joemailman]

Malik Nabers

Overview
Nabers is the next big thing coming out of LSU’s receiver room, with the pure explosiveness and talent to be mentioned in the same breath as former LSU stars starring in the league today. Despite a lack of polish and precision as a route-runner, Nabers’ gliding movements and speed alterations seem to disguise the top-end speed and separation potential that await opposing coverages. He’s a bouncy leaper with the athletic ability to make the impossible catches possible. He tucks away accurate throws and displays the toughness and play strength to fight for tight-window victories over the middle. Nabers will need to address his tendency to track and play deep throws with finesse, or his early advantages will turn into 50/50 battles. He can play all three receiver spots and has the profile to become a productive, high-volume target over all three levels as a potential WR1.

Strengths
Skills and traits needed to produce effectively on all three levels as a pro.
Glides and burns past defenders deep or pushes them into retreat for easy stop routes.
Changes speeds inside the route to tilt defenders off the break point.
Good hand-fighting and post-up talent to win positioning battles against big corners.
Frames up defender to finish contested catches underneath.
Premium leaper with contortionist’s talent for in-air adjustments on jump balls.
Catches off-frame balls with strong, sudden hands.
Has grab-and-go acceleration to catch it short and take it long.

Weaknesses
Runs free into big spaces but needs additional route schooling.
Inconsistent hip sink to snap routes off at crisp angles.
Would benefit from eliminating wasted motion in early phases of the route.
Lackadaisical to capture positioning and stack coverage behind him.

[King Friday]

This is the perfect NY pick…flashy guy who is never going to win shit.

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come on, someone move up to fuck the queens

[Joemailman]

JC Latham

Overview
Bulldozer in human form with the upper- and lower-body power to forcibly evacuate run lanes and instantly upgrade a team’s ground attack. Latham's body type is girthy, and he has elite drive-blocking talent. He has operated in a variety of run schemes but will be an average move blocker both laterally and when climbing to the second level. His pass sets are well-balanced with good initial quickness and active hands. He unleashes lefts and rights and mirrors effectively after contact but gets beaten by inside moves when he over-sets. He has the length and hand strength to shut rushers down but needs to become more comfortable setting diagonally rather than vertically to avoid sinking too deeply into his own pocket. Latham’s size, strength and talent give him a chance to become a heralded right tackle or Pro Bowl-caliber guard.

Strengths
Built like a big NFL guard but protects like an NFL tackle.
Quick into pass sets, maintaining posture and balance through the rep
Syncs feet with active, independent hands for effective mirroring.
Firm inside hand and consistent arm extension help negate rush momentum.
Possesses true knock-back pop with heavy hands and explosive hips.
Turns early advantages into quick knockouts with his furious finishes.
Upper-body power to catch, turn and seal play-side edge setters.
Grip strength allows him to save blocks that start to slip away.

Weaknesses
Average recognition and plan for pre-snap pressure looks.
Opens outside shoulder early and sets too deeply into the pocket.
Beaten inside by over-sets and down the middle by long-armed stick and drive.
Over-sets to speed; can be beaten inside and long-armed.
Can be impatient into first contact as run blocker, causing him to lunge.
Below-average lateral quickness for backside cut-off blocks.
Inconsistent entry angles make it tougher to seal and sustain his work

[King Friday]

Most hyped draft becoming huge snooze fest.

[Frozen Tundra]

Damn.... when Latham picked Goodell up off the ground, I was just screaming at him, "body slam the fucker! piledrive 'im!"

Whole rest of the draft will now be solely about that missed opportunity.

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penix JR goes #8 to the falcons????????

theres the first massive surprise

could the jets take JJ?

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Most hyped draft becoming huge snooze fest.

they always do