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    Official NFL Draft Day 2 (Rounds 2 & 3) Thread

    Best available going into Round 2.

    19. Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa
    For better or worse, DeJean has achieved outlier status due to his burly 6-1, 203-pound build more fitting of a safety. Leveraging his seldom-seen size, speed and ball skills by keeping him at outside cornerback still seems like the right move, though teams might look for other ways to tap into his explosiveness that's more linear than fluid.

    20. Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas
    Texas Longhorns wide receivers Adonai Mitchell (5) and Xavier Worthy (1) celebrate a touchdown by Mitchell during the Big 12 Championship game against the Oklahoma State Cowboys at AT&T stadium on Saturday, Dec. 2, 2023 in Arlington.
    At 6-2 and 205 pounds with 4.34-second speed in the 40-yard dash, Mitchell might come across as a pure straight-line, downfield threat. The Georgia transfer's calling card, however, is the fluidity he shows off when easily shaking defenders on his breaks. If he becomes more physical at the catch point, he could become an imposing No. 1 receiver.

    27. Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
    Dismiss him as a mere slot receiver at your own peril. McConkey masterfully sets up defensive backs to break himself free of coverage at every level, and he has enough juice as a deep threat to force defenses to stay honest. Expect him to take on a significant role as a trustworthy weapon who can keep an offense rolling with his work on intermediate routes.


    29. Johnny Newton, DT, Illinois
    The reigning Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year stands at a modest 6-2 and 304 pounds, but his track record of disruption speaks for itself. Though Newton relies on a slippery, persistent approach to beat blockers that might not be as consistently effective in the pros, his craftiness should unlock different ways for him to snake into the backfield.

    30. Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama
    Steady and savvy, McKinstry is one of this class' most reliable defensive prospects. While he's not as dynamic as other cornerbacks, his well-rounded physical tools and outstanding recognition give him a high floor as someone who can be trusted to handle a variety of coverage assignments.

    32. Payton Wilson, LB, North Carolina State
    It's impossible to discuss Wilson's draft fate without acknowledging an extensive injury history that includes twice tearing the same ACL and surgery on both shoulders. But when healthy, the 6-4, 233-pounder can be a force in space, as the Bednarik Award winner demonstrated last season.

    34. Jackson Powers-Johnson, C, Oregon
    Rocketing onto the scene in his lone season as a starter, Powers-Johnson won the Rimington Award and was a unanimous All-American. Though he could also play guard, his punishing play screams solid starter at center.


    35. Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
    Any team looking to open up its offense might gravitate toward Franklin, who will make his living picking up yardage in chunks on deep shots. The 6-2, 176-pounder can mix in some quick hits for run-after-catch opportunities, but he likely will be more of a complementary piece in a passing attack rather than a focal point.

    37. Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky
    The Deebo Samuel comparisons are simultaneous understandable yet unfair for the "YAC King," one of college football's premier threats with the ball in his hands. Expanding his repertoire to become a more reliable downfield target – particularly on contested catches – will be a vital factor in determining whether he grows into a complete receiver or is limited to a gadget role.

    38. Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia
    A four-time state wrestling champion in high school, Frazier's background is evident on every snap. He's bound to drive defenders when he locks onto them, though lengthier linemen could give him some problems given his short arms.


    39. Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
    Few defenders in this class can match Cooper when it comes to chasing down the ball. To become a consistent force at the second level, however, the 6-2, 230-pounder needs to hone his instincts and not let his aggressiveness take him out of plays so frequently.

    40. Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
    Concerns about his ability to separate have dogged Coleman throughout the pre-draft process. The Michigan State transfer, however, still makes his mark as a dependable jump-ball winner who can box out smaller defensive backs and be a major red-zone asset.

    41. Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas
    The 6-4, 245-pounder looks bound to follow many other college tight ends in essentially becoming a supersized receiver who is most often split wide and asked to do little as a blocker. That role should still leave him plenty of opportunities to make his mark, however, as Sanders can create mismatches all over the field in the passing game.


    42. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
    Limited looks in Michigan's offense didn't obscure his big-play ability, which keyed his 16.4 yards per catch and 12 touchdowns on 48 catches. The 5-11, 185-pound target should continue to tax defenses with his acceleration and a toughness typically not seen from receivers of his build.

    43. Jermaine Burton, WR, Alabama
    Even though he led the Crimson Tide in receiving yards the last two seasons, the Georgia transfer's production never seemed to measure up to his potential. That shouldn't dissuade teams from taking a look long at a target with an impressive blend of quickness, toughness and polish.

    44. Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia
    Hypercompetitive yet calm, Lassiter is the kind of determined coverage presence who can find his way in any scheme. Though his ball skills and overall athleticism aren't optimal, he can be a steadying addition to a secondary.
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    LOL several of the guys on this list are going R3 or later. I would be stunned if Dejean lasts to 41 though.

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    Watch Gute take one of the centers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    Watch Gute take one of the centers.
    I was thinking the same thing. Unless he wants to wait and take Zak Zinter a bit later.

    Everybody in Packer Nation seems to be nearly foaming at the mouth for DeJean. Even if Guter gave up his other second, a third, and his mother to get him, Packer fans would be thrilled. Conversely, they'll be pissed pissed pissed if Guter doesn't trade up to get him. Or worse yet, if somehow DeJean is there when the Packers pick at #41 and they - take someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    I was thinking the same thing. Unless he wants to wait and take Zak Zinter a bit later.

    Everybody in Packer Nation seems to be nearly foaming at the mouth for DeJean. Even if Guter gave up his other second, a third, and his mother to get him, Packer fans would be thrilled. Conversely, they'll be pissed pissed pissed if Guter doesn't trade up to get him. Or worse yet, if somehow DeJean is there when the Packers pick at #41 and they - take someone else.
    If they were that desperate to replace their lost free agents why didn't they just sign on of them instead of letting them walk (Hunter and Cousins).

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    This is a really deep draft where GB has a lot of picks. I'm hoping for Jenkins and Kneeland in round two.

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    I think and hope it is a LB at 41, but could see them taking a CB if Kool aide or Cooper is there

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    Quote Originally Posted by jklowan View Post
    I think and hope it is a LB at 41, but could see them taking a CB if Kool aide or Cooper is there
    I just looked up the first-round trades, and both the Loins and Vikes have gutted the middle of their drafts. Loins have no third or fourth round picks, and the Vikes have no fourth or fifth, and in fact I think have only like three picks total. On top of that, they gave up next year's third and fourth, too. Does the management up there reallty think they're only three or four players away? That seems crazy, like they've gotten impatient. If that extends to not letting McCarthy sit and learn for at least a year, then Ras is in for some rough fan times up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jklowan View Post
    I think and hope it is a LB at 41, but could see them taking a CB if Kool aide or Cooper is there
    Either of those works for me. We have a few starting spots up for grabs.

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    As things stand right now, Packers have 4 picks today (41, 58, 88, 91). Bears 1 (75). Lions 1 (61). Vikings 0
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    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    As things stand right now, Packers have 4 picks today (41, 58, 88, 91). Bears 1 (75). Lions 1 (61). Vikings 0
    I was thinking the same. Not the draft where you give up those picks.

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    I wouldn't thumb my nose at Jackson Powers Johnson or Zach Frazier. Packers whether they know it or not still have some holes to plug on the defensive side of the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    I wouldn't thumb my nose at Jackson Powers Johnson or Zach Frazier. Packers whether they know it or not still have some holes to plug on the defensive side of the ball.
    Same. They both sound like absolute monsters.

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    no need for this thread. most rats will have thrown themselves off bridges by the time the draft starts tonight because we took a guy at #25 that their favorite draft site told them would be available at #27

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    If Guter is going to go up to get someone, history (Christian Watson) tells us he'll be on it fast and hard.
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    Honestly, if they pick one of those guys I'd be fine with it. Especially the guy with three names, because I'd like to see how they get all that on the back of his jersey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Honestly, if they pick one of those guys I'd be fine with it. Especially the guy with three names, because I'd like to see how they get all that on the back of his jersey.
    lol

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    I love that, as Fritz pointed out, Minny and Detroit have gutted their middle round picks. I'm also not convinced that McCarthy is the answer at QB for Minny.

    Detroit, I get, their window is now. But Minny? LOL.

    I expect Gutes to make hay with these next four picks.

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    I get the Lions, since they are probably thinking they have a short window with Goff and got to the NFCCG. Bears and Vikings make less sense. Bears gave up draft capital for Montez Sweat, and Keenan Allen so that's not bad, but in 2-3 years when Caleb Williams might be something one or both players will be gone. Rome Odunze is a good player.
    Vikings have an aging defense, and no QB... so the picks they made make sense but at the expense of future picks smells like desperation. They gave up a lot for Hockenson, who is a top 10 but possibly not a top 5 TE. Seems like Vikings fans were in "extend Kwesi" mode last night but when they realize how much development Turner and McCarthy need they may be singing a different tune.

    Their fans probably laughing at Gute for picking a T-Rex armed tackle who will probably move inside to guard. Way too early to say much, nobody has played a snap yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    I get the Lions, since they are probably thinking they have a short window with Goff and got to the NFCCG. Bears and Vikings make less sense. Bears gave up draft capital for Montez Sweat, and Keenan Allen so that's not bad, but in 2-3 years when Caleb Williams might be something one or both players will be gone. Rome Odunze is a good player.
    Vikings have an aging defense, and no QB... so the picks they made make sense but at the expense of future picks smells like desperation. They gave up a lot for Hockenson, who is a top 10 but possibly not a top 5 TE. Seems like Vikings fans were in "extend Kwesi" mode last night but when they realize how much development Turner and McCarthy need they may be singing a different tune.

    Their fans probably laughing at Gute for picking a T-Rex armed tackle who will probably move inside to guard. Way too early to say much, nobody has played a snap yet.
    Holmes has insisted he does not carry that mindset, but if he trades away one of next year's picks to move up this year we'll know he was bullshitting. Minny is a complete mystery to me - they don't have a third round pick next year already, I think. It's a weird team - some older guys on defense, I think, yet they are starting over at QB. Just a weird mishmash.
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