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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaire View Post
    Green was a lot bigger as I remember... very different back
    Then you remember incorrectly. Green was 6’ and 220. Only a tad taller and the same weight.

    Jacobs reminds me of Green, and so does this kid.
    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Friday View Post
    Then you remember incorrectly. Green was 6’ and 220. Only a tad taller and the same weight.

    Jacobs reminds me of Green, and so does this kid.
    Neither are anything like Green. Lloyd looks special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaire View Post
    Neither are anything like Green. Lloyd looks special.
    So did Green in his highlights. My issue, I saw most of his runs where he simply took the ball and ran thru a big hole. Anyone can do that. I can't fault him for it, I'm just not going to call him special for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    So did Green in his highlights. My issue, I saw most of his runs where he simply took the ball and ran thru a big hole. Anyone can do that. I can't fault him for it, I'm just not going to call him special for it.
    Did Green average 0.4 missed tackles created per run? Doubtful.

    And it is highly difficult to create missed tackles if you are just running through a wide open hole all the time.
    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    So did Green in his highlights. My issue, I saw most of his runs where he simply took the ball and ran thru a big hole. Anyone can do that. I can't fault him for it, I'm just not going to call him special for it.
    Wow, you been losing at the tables lately?

    All RBs can run but not all have the vision to see those holes you despise so much. A huge frustration with RBs that I have is seeing the camera angle that shows where he could have ran (Dillion). You get guys that just run into walls. If defenders are occupying a space than there has to other space open to run on every play right? Seems this guy can find it so if that is the complaint then Gutes came up on this pick big time.

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    I like the pick as an RB2. I think he's fine as a pass catcher. Not sure about his pass pro, and the fumbling is a concern. Yes, Ahman Green had fumbling problems, rumor was that it was always early in the year when his rubber sleeves got sweaty. I actually think Ben Sirmans has done ok with coaching RBs and will do his best with Lloyd's fumbling.

    Low usage, good athlete. I think his feet and vision are fine if you coach him to be one cut and go. Seems to have pretty rapid fire feet when he wants, his acceleration and long speed are also good. I think the 4.47 speed is real with him.
    He's a legit 5' 9" 220. Aaron Jones played at maybe 200 pounds, some think he was even 190.

    R3 is about as early as I'd like to draft a RB unless they're a true bonafide star like Johnathon Taylor or Bijon. They needed to get better at RB and this is a good start. Dillon and Wilson aren't the long term answer, this guy could be part of that answer.

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    Saw a lot of forced missed tackles and (some) broken takles from Lloyd. Too many to think he's Alex Green.

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    If there was a protion of the scouting world, most importantly the Packers variety, that felt Lloyd was the best back in the draft, we really can't be too upset about using a back-end 3rd on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuggler View Post
    If there was a protion of the scouting world, most importantly the Packers variety, that felt Lloyd was the best back in the draft, we really can't be too upset about using a back-end 3rd on him.
    The packers have a lot of missed in the RB drafted category. jones was the exception.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    i finally watched some highlights of this kid. i don't even want to say who he reminded me of

    dudes gonna be fun to watch

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    i finally watched some highlights of this kid. i don't even want to say who he reminded me of

    dudes gonna be fun to watch
    He watched a lot of Barry Sanders. Compared his game and build to Josh Jacobs.

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    My dad said he looks like Walter Payton. Can't say I had the 'pleasure', but that's high acclaim.

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    Bet he’ll get screamed at more than once for not just hitting the hole.
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    Emmitt Smith was 5’9” 220.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    How the game has changed. Robert Newhouse was a running back with the Dallas Cowboys in the 70's and early 80's (early on as a fulback), went 5'-10", weighed about 210, and was known as "The Human Bowling Ball." He was fun to watch.

    Now, a 210 llb running back is nearly a scatback. Aaron Jones was about 210, wasn't he? And he was considered a "light" RB compared to the Josh Jacobses and the AJ Dillons.

    As always, I know nothing about whether these guys will be any good. So we'll just have to wait and see. But I hope he's fuckin' awesome, and maybe gets a chance to bowl over Cooper DeJean in Brazil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    How the game has changed. Robert Newhouse was a running back with the Dallas Cowboys in the 70's and early 80's (early on as a fulback), went 5'-10", weighed about 210, and was known as "The Human Bowling Ball." He was fun to watch.

    Now, a 210 llb running back is nearly a scatback. Aaron Jones was about 210, wasn't he? And he was considered a "light" RB compared to the Josh Jacobses and the AJ Dillons.

    As always, I know nothing about whether these guys will be any good. So we'll just have to wait and see. But I hope he's fuckin' awesome, and maybe gets a chance to bowl over Cooper DeJean in Brazil.
    Jones is 190 after a big meal. That's per a recent LaFleur interview.

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    Those highlights of Green were fun. I remembered he played for Hawaii but forgot they were in the WAC. In other words, he was probably the best athlete on the field most of the time.
    Watch those highlights -- he's running against light boxes on delayed/draw plays with gaping holes against a lower level of competition.

    He was worth a Day 3 lottery ticket (R4 was a reach and a classic Ted "who?" pick) but Alex Green and Marshawn Lloyd are different players.

    Edit: Aaron Jones was listed at 5'9, 208 but he played lighter than that. (Closer to 195-200). I suspect Emmitt did too.

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    Ray rice is kind of a similar build
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    Jones weighed 208 at the combine. But I know he took off weight following his rookie year.
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    Packers gave Lloyd, a USC running back, the same number 32 that OJ Simpson wore. I guess that's okay for now.
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