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    We can't know everything that went into the decision to trade Rasul. Maybe he was so sick of Barry that Gute was afraid he was becoming a malcontent. Certainly Campbell did. At any rate I still don't think the pass defense got noticeably worse after the trade as Valentine and Ballentine played pretty well.
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    Packers used the Rasul cap savings to sign Xavier. I'm fine with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    Packers used the Rasul cap savings to sign Xavier. I'm fine with that.
    I pretty damned happy about the McKinney too.

    But we still have nearly $23M in cap space now for this year - and that already includes of the $8M cap hit for McKinney. We had the cap space for Rasul. I don't think the Love contract needs to have much impact on this years number. They might choose to bring some of that hit forward because they have so much space now.

    I just looked up Jaire's number for this year - $24M against the cap according to Spotrac. That guy has to start earning his money again. I don't think he's even in the slightest danger of getting cut because it would trigger $35.5M in dead money against the cap this year.

    Again, I think Brian made the trade solely to convert a current asset into a future asset, because he thought our window wouldn't be open for a while.

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    But we still have nearly $23M in cap space now for this year - and that already includes of the $8M cap hit for McKinney.
    They will need the cap space for extending Love. They also might want to extend Kenny Clark.

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    I don't think we have a significant need for additional free agents at this point, but the upcoming re-signing of Love and probably Clark too should not require massive cap space, at least not unless they decide to do less backloading than usual. If we needed a low cap number for Love and Clark, we certainly could do it that way.
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    I am pretty sure the draft picks and undrafted free agents are going to eat up a lot of that cap space. Maybe as much as $15M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    I am pretty sure the draft picks and undrafted free agents are going to eat up a lot of that cap space. Maybe as much as $15M.
    Per lombardiave.com.

    Over The Cap projects the Packers will need $3.92 million in cap space to sign their rookie class.

    They estimate the class will cost $12.67 million, but the cap hits are significantly lower, as each new player is replacing someone already on the roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Campbell View Post
    Per lombardiave.com.

    Over The Cap projects the Packers will need $3.92 million in cap space to sign their rookie class.

    They estimate the class will cost $12.67 million, but the cap hits are significantly lower, as each new player is replacing someone already on the roster.
    That assumption works if none of the players cut have any dead cap.

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    Yeah, I don't think that's correct. They have ~20M in cap space now, players have already left. Bakhtiari's gone, Jones, Runyan, etc. They'll get some cap space from Campbell when June 1 hits, but they have to sign rookies and FA and that $20M number is what they have for space.
    It will take about $13M to sign the rookies, leaving them with about $7M for in-season emergencies, PS callups, etc. Any extensions will have to have some other kind of manuever... so I suspect Jordan Love extension happens closer to the start of training camp.

    Last year they were really cap strapped, this year they are cap limited, next year they'll be free of most of their big contracts and have cap space to manuever.

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    Now that we didn't draft a single CB in a deep draft I REALLY hate the trade.
    Kalen King?

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    Kalen King?
    My bad. And I love the pick for value. As we say in baseball, if he put it on tape he can do it again. King put tape together that had him in the top 15 conversation. No reason to believe he isn't capable of starting in the NFL.
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    Next year's draft at CB is supposedly much better than this year, which was kinda meh at CB.

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    This dude had a 22.7 missed tackle percentage during the 2023 season.

    DeVondre Campbell appeared in 13 games last year, including the playoffs. Campbell's missed tackle rate was at nearly 10 percent after being at 2.8 percent during his All-Pro season.

    Seems like a giant red flag. I have no idea how you draft a guy this flawed in the top 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Campbell View Post
    This dude had a 22.7 missed tackle percentage during the 2023 season.

    DeVondre Campbell appeared in 13 games last year, including the playoffs. Campbell's missed tackle rate was at nearly 10 percent after being at 2.8 percent during his All-Pro season.

    Seems like a giant red flag. I have no idea how you draft a guy this flawed in the top 100.
    Average athlete too. It would be more understandable if he was a 9.5 RAS guy.

    He’s a really good special teams body type. He’s, by all accounts, an incredible lockerroom guy. I guess a ST guy who helps quay and edge develop by setting a tireless tone and all football mindset isn’t the worst thing in the world. But it looks pretty bad if you’re expecting him to actually play defense.
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    I don’t know if you want to make a habit out of drafting cheer leaders and motivation interns with 3rd round picks.
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    He's just above the average RAS for NFL players, which means he's plenty athletic. Half of the players have lower RAS scores
    There will be plenty of good players with lower RAS scores.

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    What concerns me about Hopper is that his poor agility scores might indicate why he misses so many tackles. He might have a physical weakness they can't do anything about.
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    He flys all over the field resulting in making plays and missing tackles. He's bizarro AJ Hawk.

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    That might be a good thing.

    Gary Cooper and Dennis Hopper - our new linebacking generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    That might be a good thing.

    Gary Cooper and Dennis Hopper - our new linebacking generation.
    I was going to say Cecil Cooper and Ty'Ron Hipster, but I like your nicknames better.

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