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    There's a decent chance that Rodgers will have a good season and Tex will be back in the perch.

    The Packers have been on a collision course with AR ever since they dared to draft another QB without his permission.
    It was bound to end in tears. He did have some terrific games after the epic hissy fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    I'm wondering what RG said that was so bad.
    Its not your business to wonder about and the next time anyone is questioning/wondering why someone was banned will get them double the person they asked about. Im sick of having to babysit stupid assholes who know better. Also any mention of FYI or meet me in FYI will also get you put down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadtownPacker View Post
    Its not your business to wonder about and the next time anyone is questioning/wondering why someone was banned will get them double the person they asked about. Im sick of having to babysit stupid assholes who know better. Also any mention of FYI or meet me in FYI will also get you put down.
    Still stealing people's freedom I see.


    Any Whoo, Packers would have been much better off with Rodgers in 2023 but all good things come to an end. The Packers and I would say Rodgers put themselves in this position. Rodgers thinks a red carpet should be rolled out for elderly players that have nothing left to give, and so he demanded to have his last year of his contract ripped up and then demand a 3 year 150 million dollar deal to keep playing, the Packers foolishly gave him the money. They drafted Jordan Love with the expectation that Rodgers was going to retire by now? Then why in the fucking world would you pay Rodgers in the first place after ripping up his contract?

    Really Mark Murphy has been a bag of shit since he has gotten to Green Bay and he should fuck right the fuck off. Gute seems to have a very limited ability to run this organization. LaFluer has the stones to be a head coach, but the triumphant should be disbanded and a real GM and President need to be brought in to clean up this disaster created because of an aging veteran QB that they can't get any value for on the trade market because he makes too much fucking money on top of the money that Packers have to pay off on their salary cap. What a cluster fuck and for it to repeat itself in almost the same exact way 15 years later is the biggest fucking joke on this franchise. You would have thought if any front office would know how to handle this, it would have been the Packers. Good luck cheering for this team, because I am not quite sure how close they are going to be to success in the next 3 or 4 years. Jordan Love is no Rodgers or Favre. The odds are incredibly preposterous for the Packers to his on 3 in a row. Not like it matters, it will only net 1 super bowl if Love does hit.

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    Rodgers is not easy, at all. But Nutzy has a point - if anyone should've known how to handle this, it should've been Murphy and Guter. But they botched it - again. Well, "again" for Murphy.
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    I don't think management botched Favre's meltdown. They accommodated the great one through his mood swings, then made a commitment to a new direction when it seemed like Favre offered a hard goodbye.

    The decision to offer Rodgers a 3-year golden parachute was questionable and risky. It might have worked out OK if the team around him was as strong as expected. But shit happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    I don't think management botched Favre's meltdown. They accommodated the great one through his mood swings, then made a commitment to a new direction when it seemed like Favre offered a hard goodbye.

    The decision to offer Rodgers a 3-year golden parachute was questionable and risky. It might have worked out OK if the team around him was as strong as expected. But shit happened.
    Good point. Favre made that difficult. But I would say that Murphy and Guter, in Rodgers's case, had about as much finesse as Ray Nitschke.
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    Not to rehash the Favre thing, but its been pretty apparent that Thompson and McCarthy were just fine moving on from Favre. Of course the fan base was not ok with moving on from Favre so Thompson and McCarthy flew down to Mississippi and wanted a decision about his future. He said if they had to have an answer then he would retire because he wasn't ready to approach another season at the time. Obviously Favre and Rodgers are going through the same thing at the end of their careers and not knowing how much longer they want to play, not sure how you can't see the comparisons. The only difference is Favre never held the franchise hostage with a ridiculous contract. He did force their hand by coming to Green Bay forcing the Packers to either suit him up, trade him, or cut him.

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    Sorry, Nutz but this is different.

    ARod didn’t retire before the draft and unretire after the draft. Then force the team to trade him.
    And the brass signed the fricken contract knowing they have an ego qb over 40. How’s that on ARod?

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    How in the world did you get that I was blaming Rodgers in all of this? He got the Packers to bend the knee and he took full advantage of it, good for him! I mean he got them to tear up his final year on his contract and then add 3 years for 150 million to it. Absolutely good on him. When he talk about retirement he said he was going to make a timely decision, and he didn't. He said it himself he was 90% retired before his retreat. Favre, Brady, and Rodgers all use retirement as some sort of leverage because they were able to play well into their late 30s and 40s. Favre, Brady, and Rodgers have all made a lot of money in the twilight of their career, using very similar tactics to move on from their OG team. Now they all have egos, and Rodgers might be the biggest. I don't like him, never have. The thing about Rodgers is that he did manipulate the Packers 2 seasons ago before the draft, he continues to manipulate the Packers and now the Jets with his appearance on MacAfee Show. He has figured the game out.

    I also explained the Favre situation to the best of my knowledge. If the Packers had went to Rodgers in February and demanded an answer he would have retired, then I guarantee he would have unretired in the Summer. Hey the Packers got a 2nd round pick for Favre, it could have been a first if the Jets would have made the playoffs. I don't think it worked out to bad for the Packers. They used that 2nd round pick in the draft to move up and draft Clay Matthews, who in my opinion was terribly overrated but still was a key contributor to Packers 4th Super Bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    If the Packers had went to Rodgers in February and demanded an answer he would have retired, then I guarantee he would have unretired in the Summer.
    Exactly how do they "demand" he does anything of the sort? I'm pretty sure they asked.

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    Even though he is possibly a worst person than Rodgers, Sir Nutz he is a football expert. His version fits with timelines and entitled millennial behavior that 12 has always shown.

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    Nutz's post(s) come closer to correct than the others here.

    Signing Rodgers to that contract was not a "golden parachute" type thing. It was smart - designed to keep the GOAT QB a Packer for several additional years at least. However, where Gutekunst and Murphy blundered severely was in blinking after one bad (primarily due to injury) season and fucking up the whole situation. Assuming the trade does actually happen, Rodgers, disgustingly from my point of view, is probably gonna go to the Jets and play like the GOAT for several more years at least - similar to the Brady situation.

    And believe me, I will be reminding the shitheads in here who actually WANTED him gone with the inevitability of bad times in Green Bay and good times in New York just how all world STUPID they were for craving that to happen.

    And Harlan, about your post above, yeah, in the very unlikely scenario that the Packers do still play winning football like the Rodgers years, I'll damn well be cheering for it - just not expecting it.
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  13. #33
    If Rodgers had said he was committed to the Packers at any point, he'd be back. It's as simple as that.

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    That would indeed be logical, but it doesn't seem to be true, based on the likelihood now that he will be gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    Exactly how do they "demand" he does anything of the sort? I'm pretty sure they asked.
    Simple, if the Packers would have put Rodgers on a timeline similar to the way Thompson and McCarthy put Favre on a timeline. I think Favre was relatively loyal to the Franchise, I don't think he saw himself playing for anyone else until he realized he was ready to play ball and that the Packers had moved on, then he wanted a clean release from the Packers so he could play for the team of his choosing, which is ridiculous, especially since he wanted to go play for the Vikings.

    I think Rodgers wants out of Green Bay, I think the Packers brass now wants him out of Green Bay because they some how just now realized they have a QB on a rookie deal that is about to expire and they need to know if he can actually play, and they some how in a drunken stupor extended Rodgers to a whopping 100 million of Guaranteed Money. I still don't understand why you do both. You either let Rodger walk after 2022 and not extend him and go with Love for 2023, or you extend Rodger and put Love up for trade. It's is actually that damn simple and the Packers messed it up.

  16. #36
    They didn't have the same options with Rodgers's contract as they did with Favre though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    If Rodgers had said he was committed to the Packers at any point, he'd be back. It's as simple as that.
    We'll never know for sure, but I would be really surprised if he didn't say I'm ready to play for the Packers in 2023 and they said no thanks, we're going with Jordan, we're going to move you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    We'll never know for sure, but I would be really surprised if he didn't say I'm ready to play for the Packers in 2023 and they said no thanks, we're going with Jordan, we're going to move you.
    I guess we won't know for certain, but I believe Rodgers. Rodgers would be lying about what happened in his latest interview. He basically said he found out the Packers didn't want him after his darkness retreat.

    Packers are super conservative about their image so I highly, highly doubt they did that in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    I guess we won't know for certain, but I believe Rodgers. Rodgers would be lying about what happened in his latest interview. He basically said he found out the Packers didn't want him after his darkness retreat.

    Packers are super conservative about their image so I highly, highly doubt they did that in the first place.
    they had a meeting (i think) right after the season ended and the team told them what they expected. then rodgers has no contact outside of a couple simple texts

    over half of packer nation knew it was coming. the talk at the combine was about teams asking about him

    maybe he had his head so far in the clouds and thinking his shit doesn't stink to think it wouldn't really happen, but a good chunck of the football world knew it was coming

    so just another bullshit statement from him, just like how he didn't give the jets a list of demands, he just told them a list of players he would like to have when they all met. he didn't demand anything, it was just a strong suggestion

    for as smart as he thinks he is, he should have known as soon as he signed the contract last year that it was just a 1 or 2 year deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    They didn't have the same options with Rodgers's contract as they did with Favre though.
    What the fuck are you talking about?

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