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    Quote Originally Posted by mgordo View Post
    1989 draft supports your theory...
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    I say again, a LOT of high drafted O linemen turn out to be busts or at least disappointing.
    Way to go out on a limb. You can say that about any position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Lots of great lyrics ain’t rhyme, like, Lennon’s “Across the Universe.” But if rhymes are what you seek, I have a tons of unpublished “Ted Is Trapped In The Closet” to post.
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    Ted Is Trapped In The Closet, Chap. 69

    When Sherman ruled this part of the world
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    Life was merrily drenched in the playoffs
    Losing was a bitch we ain’t ever heard of
    By and by, the odd polar bear stole the throne
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    When Favor was our knight in shining amour
    We vanquished every foe in the epics of Homer
    We slain the Bears, Queens and fucking Lions
    We ruled the North like Neo in fucking Zion
    By and by, the odd polar bear stole the throne
    And he turned Favor’s fragile beauty into stone

    Butte is the catcher in the fucking rye
    He’s the apple of the polar bear’s eyes
    Life now feels like a mother’s warm touch
    And it’s so fucking Butteyous in the clutch
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    I say again, a LOT of high drafted O linemen turn out to be busts or at least disappointing.
    And a LOT of mushrooms are poisonous so you shouldn't eat mushrooms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    I say again, a LOT of high drafted O linemen turn out to be busts or at least disappointing.
    More hits happen in the early rounds than in the mid or late rounds, which is the whole point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    And a LOT of mushrooms are poisonous so you shouldn't eat mushrooms.
    Eventually, I will trek to Vegas. Not sure I would want to stack you at the poker tables, though. Apparently, you ain’t a fungus.

    Never draft a Yokozuna in the 1st round. In the first, give me a hotshot QB, a shutdown corner, a diva wideout, a hip hop safety, a poetic edge rusher or an Urlacher. The fats (Yokozuna offensive linemen and defensive linemen) are just not playmakers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    More hits happen in the early rounds than in the mid or late rounds, which is the whole point.
    Sure, it’s nice to have a D’Brickashaw Ferguson protecting the QB’s blindside. But the kung fu (skill) between a Ferguson and a, say, Marshall Newhouse ain’t as material as that of a Butte and a Jon Kitna.

    Premium picks should be used on playmakers like the Claymaker and J-Alex, not Elgton Jenkins, Kenny Clark and Derrick Sherods. Sure, there are hits and busts at every position. But replace Clark with, say, Cletudus Hunt, and the production would be extremely similar.

    Try replacing the Claymaker with Frank Zombo. The difference in kung fu is significant. Therefore, gotta use premium picks on finesse playmakers, not fat Yokozunas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Sure, it’s nice to have a D’Brickashaw Ferguson protecting the QB’s blindside. But the kung fu (skill) between a Ferguson and a, say, Marshall Newhouse ain’t as material as that of a Butte and a Jon Kitna.

    Premium picks should be used on playmakers like the Claymaker and J-Alex, not Elgton Jenkins, Kenny Clark and Derrick Sherods. Sure, there are hits and busts at every position. But replace Clark with, say, Cletudus Hunt, and the production would be extremely similar.

    Try replacing the Claymaker with Frank Zombo. The difference in kung fu is significant. Therefore, gotta use premium picks on finesse playmakers, not fat Yokozunas.
    I'm not saying you only pick offensive lineman. I'm just saying you don't take them off the table completely. Hard and fast rules like that aren't wise. You take a look at the options available and make the best decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    More hits happen in the early rounds than in the mid or late rounds, which is the whole point.
    Yes, I was mocking Tex. I know, its like picking on the fat kid. Too easy and not nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Sure, it’s nice to have a D’Brickashaw Ferguson protecting the QB’s blindside. But the kung fu (skill) between a Ferguson and a, say, Marshall Newhouse ain’t as material as that of a Butte and a Jon Kitna.

    Premium picks should be used on playmakers like the Claymaker and J-Alex, not Elgton Jenkins, Kenny Clark and Derrick Sherods. Sure, there are hits and busts at every position. But replace Clark with, say, Cletudus Hunt, and the production would be extremely similar.

    Try replacing the Claymaker with Frank Zombo. The difference in kung fu is significant. Therefore, gotta use premium picks on finesse playmakers, not fat Yokozunas.
    One of your better posts, APB. It’s basically what I’ve said all along - O Line tends to be less important than a lot of other positions.

    Yeah right to the idea that you see plenty of busts and disappointments in other positions drafted early too, but I’m fairly sure the most by a wide margin are O linemen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    One of your better posts, APB. It’s basically what I’ve said all along - O Line tends to be less important than a lot of other positions.

    Yeah right to the idea that you see plenty of busts and disappointments in other positions drafted early too, but I’m fairly sure the most by a wide margin are O linemen.
    I bet DL and QBs bust more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    I bet DL and QBs bust more often.
    I found one article which was a bit dated (2015) on the subject. The 4 positions with the most 1st round busts were QB, RB, WR and DL. All the OL positions were in the lower half of bust percentage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    I found one article which was a bit dated (2015) on the subject. The 4 positions with the most 1st round busts were QB, RB, WR and DL. All the OL positions were in the lower half of bust percentage.
    The move is clear then. Trade all your 1sts and 2nds and load up on the 3rd round....oops, that won't work for our GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    The move is clear then. Trade all your 1sts and 2nds and load up on the 3rd round....oops, that won't work for our GM.
    We could own the 4th.
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    Forget your perfect offering
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    The move is clear then. Trade all your 1sts and 2nds and load up on the 3rd round....oops, that won't work for our GM.
    More busts in the 3rd round than in the 1st and 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    We could own the 4th.
    Yes, the 7 iron of the draft. Mr. 7 wiggle. The home of Bak, Tom, Doubs, Jamal Williams, JC Tretter, Mike Daniels, TJ Lang, Josh Sitton and Brady Poppinga.

    If we own the 4th we own the Lombardi Cup!!
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    I don’t know x’s from o’s, but I read somewhere, on a couple of occasions that building a team, no matter what the sport, you build from the middle out. Made a bunch of sense to me.
    Baseball:
    Pitchers (obviously)
    Catcher
    Short stop
    Second base
    Center field
    Basketball:
    Center
    Point guard
    Power forward
    Football:
    Quarterback (obviously)
    Center
    Main back
    Middle linebacker (back in the day)
    Strong Safety

    And build out from there

    I’m showing my age

    Speaking of which, whatever happened to Oldbutnotdeadyet?

    Sheesh, even Patler checked in recently

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    I was just looking up all time NBA ppg leaders and saw Jordan at the top. At 6’6” 210 with his movement skills, I wonder what kind of receiver he would have been. Shit, I imagine he’d be the best athlete at the position of all time. He claims he ran a 4.3 40. Yeah, he’d be the goat for sure. I guess without shoes he’s 6’5”, so that 210 is in the ideal range for build.
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    Another kind of random stat…. Since it’s not draft season, this is always off topic….. Damian Lillard is the 11th highest career ppg player in NBA history. Teaming with Giannis is freaking sick.
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