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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Tanking has less chance of working in the football though because of the number of players involved. Basketball obviously has the highest chance.
    Top 5 picks bust in football every single year.
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    Yes, embrace me, the Tank.

    Cos, I don't believe in Love. I never have and I never will. Love’s never worth the pain that you feel.
    I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.

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    Who in their right mind would embrace the Tank? Even hookers charge double to do so.
    Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!

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    Packers win.

    Ring the bells that still can ring
    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Top 5 picks bust in football every single year.
    HOWEVER......how many of the top QB's in the NFL were picked in the top 10 selections in round one ???
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    HOWEVER......how many of the top QB's in the NFL were picked in the top 10 selections in round one ???
    Using a list of the best QB's in 2023 compiled by SI, it's a mixed bag:

    1. Pat Mahomes (10)
    2. Joe Burrow (1)
    3. Josh Allen (7)
    4. Jalen Hurts (53)
    5. Justin Herbert (6)
    6. Trevor Lawrence (1)
    7. Lamar Jackson (32)
    8. Aaron Rodgers (24)
    9. Matt Stafford (1)
    10. Dak Prescott (135)
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    Draft position of last 10 QB's to win Super Bowl:

    Pat Mahomes (10)
    Matt Stafford (1)
    Tom Brady (199)
    Pat Mahomes (10)
    Tom Brady (199)
    Nick Foles (88)
    Tom Brady (199)
    Peyton Manning (1)
    Tom Brady (199)
    Russell Wilson (75)
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    From 2012-2021, 21 QB's have been drafted in the top 10. Only Pat Mahomes has been the starting QB for a Super Bowl winner.

    QB's taken in top 10 from 2012-2021:

    Andrew Luck
    Robert Griffin
    Ryan Tannehill
    Blake Bortles
    Jameis Winston
    Marcus Mariota
    Jared Goff
    Carson Wentz
    Mitchell Trubisky
    Pat Mahomes
    Baker Mayfield
    Sam Darnold
    Josh Allen
    Kyler Murray
    Daniel Jones
    Joe Burrow
    Tua Tagovailoa
    Trevor Lawrence
    Zach Wilson
    Trey Lance
    Justin Herbert
    Last edited by Joemailman; 11-05-2023 at 11:19 PM.
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    The gap between Jordan Love and Joe Burrow is bigger than the gap between Brett Rypien and Jordan Love.

    Embrace the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    From 2012-2021, 21 QB's have been drafted in the top 10. Only Pat Mahomes has been the starting QB for a Super Bowl winner.

    QB's taken in top 10 from 2012-2021:

    Andrew Luck
    Robert Griffin
    Ryan Tannehill
    Blake Bortles
    Jameis Winston
    Marcus Mariota
    Jared Goff
    Carson Wentz
    Mitchell Trubisky
    Pat Mahomes
    Baker Mayfield
    Sam Darnold
    Josh Allen
    Kyler Murray
    Daniel Jones
    Joe Burrow
    Tua Tagovailoa
    Trevor Lawrence
    Zach Wilson
    Trey Lance
    Justin Herbert
    It is a fun exercise to go through these guys and the org, swap the QB in question with Brady, and ask if they would have won anything. I think Tua has a chance despite the assness that is the Dolphins org. They have a great coach presently.

    My other take away is don't draft guys from small schools. Who in their right mind didn't think/know Blake Bortles was gonna be a bust? It was so obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadScientist View Post
    Who in their right mind would embrace the Tank? Even hookers charge double to do so.
    You and KY are just killing it today with the APB takedowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Packers win.

    Oh Hell Yeah, THAT is what you to with the STUPID idea of the "tank".
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    The gap between Jordan Love and Joe Burrow is bigger than the gap between Brett Rypien and Jordan Love.

    Embrace the tank.
    Seriously? This post was AFTER the game? How in the hell can people still rag on Jordan Love? Sheeeesh.
    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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    I think there's a chance the tank is buried next week. Steelers are 5-3, but their offense is woeful, #30 overall. In 8 games they have 7 TD passes and 6 INT's. Their ground game is averaging 3.7 YPC. Should be a low scoring game the Packers have a good chance of winning if they protect the football.
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    Forget your perfect offering
    There is a crack, a crack in everything
    That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    From 2012-2021, 21 QB's have been drafted in the top 10. Only Pat Mahomes has been the starting QB for a Super Bowl winner.

    QB's taken in top 10 from 2012-2021:

    Andrew Luck
    Robert Griffin
    Ryan Tannehill
    Blake Bortles
    Jameis Winston
    Marcus Mariota
    Jared Goff
    Carson Wentz
    Mitchell Trubisky
    Pat Mahomes
    Baker Mayfield
    Sam Darnold
    Josh Allen
    Kyler Murray
    Daniel Jones
    Joe Burrow
    Tua Tagovailoa
    Trevor Lawrence
    Zach Wilson
    Trey Lance
    Justin Herbert
    2 points to make. Goff and Burrow were both IN the Owl so thats something. Also since only ONE team wins an Owl annually this list is bound to skew a certain way. However even those 2 points don't change the fact that this list is at least half epic BUST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    It is a fun exercise to go through these guys and the org, swap the QB in question with Brady, and ask if they would have won anything. I think Tua has a chance despite the assness that is the Dolphins org. They have a great coach presently.

    My other take away is don't draft guys from small schools. Who in their right mind didn't think/know Blake Bortles was gonna be a bust? It was so obvious.
    I have never considered Bortles a bust.....not compared to a lot of the names on that list. Bortles played in an AFCC game and should have won it if not for the officials deciding that Brady deserves every clutch penalty. To be honest if you called the Bortles bust ahead of time you are in the 1% since he was a consensus top 3 pick. I don't quite get why this guy wasn't given more shots ala Carr, Jimmy G and that ilk. He was every bit as good as they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    My other take away is don't draft guys from small schools. Who in their right mind didn't think/know Blake Bortles was gonna be a bust? It was so obvious.
    Who in their right mind doesn’t know your testicles don’t explode if you don’t jerk off? Some things never change.
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    Bortles was... not good. Big guy, strong arm, lots of scouts and coaches liked him. The Jags gave him a 3 year extension after their AFCCC run, but cut him one into it. He was a backup/bounced around a bit after that and retired.
    Not great for the 3rd overall pick. Khalil Mack was picked 5th that year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Using a list of the best QB's in 2023 compiled by SI, it's a mixed bag:

    1. Pat Mahomes (10)
    2. Joe Burrow (1)
    3. Josh Allen (7)
    4. Jalen Hurts (53)
    5. Justin Herbert (6)
    6. Trevor Lawrence (1)
    7. Lamar Jackson (32)
    8. Aaron Rodgers (24)
    9. Matt Stafford (1)
    10. Dak Prescott (135)

    So SIX out of TEN were top 10
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Oh Hell Yeah, THAT is what you to with the STUPID idea of the "tank".


    That Tank represents my hopo of GB getting Marvelous Marvin
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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