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    Quote Originally Posted by Fosco33 View Post
    I wonder how much Ted Thompson Gute will show now that Rodgers is gone. If Ted had a position of need and no player dropped to him in the draft, he’d count on his scouts to dumpster dive and find something worth keeping. This was incredibly frustrating to fans who really focus on the “right now” aspect and don’t consider the possibility of getting lucky in the dumpster dive.

    Gute could go full ted and patch the safety position together with whatever he can find at the local thrift store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    I wonder how much Ted Thompson Gute will show now that Rodgers is gone. If Ted had a position of need and no player dropped to him in the draft, he’d count on his scouts to dumpster dive and find something worth keeping. This was incredibly frustrating to fans who really focus on the “right now” aspect and don’t consider the possibility of getting lucky in the dumpster dive.

    Gute could go full ted and patch the safety position together with whatever he can find at the local thrift store.
    Gute's been a pretty good bargain hunter. De'vondre Campbell was a late signing, Rudy Ford, Keisean Nixon, Rasul Douglas and Bo Melton off practice squads. He'll need to do it again as they won't have a lot of cap room. Actually Gute does this more than Ted. Ted was more likely to just rely on UDFA's.
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    I think the expanded practice rosters (16 domestic + 1 international development next season) mean a different kind of scouting is needed. I'm not sure what or how, but now the best 496 players not on an active roster are on someone else's practice squad.
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    Can you watch other teams' practice squad players, or just in pre-season and what you get in training camp film?

    I'm guessing Guter's going to pull from the Ron Wolf/Ted Thompson draft strategy: draft a few guys at a position of need and hope at least one works out. Hell, during the rise of Randy Moss, Wolf once drafted defensive backs with his first three picks in a row. Only the third-round guy, Mike Mckenzie, really worked out. If I recall, his first round guy was a safety who did not like to hit, and his second round guy was traded to Seattle (his first name was Fred, I think) for some fumble-prone running back named Ahman something-or-other...
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    A little less drama this year.

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    Packers GM Brian Gutekunst will hold his season wrap-up press conference on Thursday at noon.
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    How long untill we get a new DC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    That, and the NFL use of the k-ball for kicking plays. Some college kickers have difficulty adapting to it mentally and/or physically.
    Our long snapper made it look like the KY ball all season (not to be confused with KY the rat member).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Fox View Post
    How long untill we get a new DC?
    Could be late this week. Unless MLF has Chiefs or 49ers coaches in mind. I doubt that though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Could be late this week. Unless MLF has Chiefs or 49ers coaches in mind. I doubt that though.
    I follow all the media on Twitter and I genuinely think you have your finger on the pulse of 1265 more than the beat guys do. It’ll probably happen late this week. I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Could be late this week. Unless MLF has Chiefs or 49ers coaches in mind. I doubt that though.
    Please God don't let it be Brandon Staley. That'd be the same M.O. as the Joe Barely hire.

    Any of the others in the running, anyone but Staley. Please, Flower. Don't make the "safe" hire of the guy you know. You do that, then you could've just kept Joe Barely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Please God don't let it be Brandon Staley. That'd be the same M.O. as the Joe Barely hire.

    Any of the others in the running, anyone but Staley. Please, Flower. Don't make the "safe" hire of the guy you know. You do that, then you could've just kept Joe Barely.
    He's never coached with Staley. The guy he knows is Christian Parker. Should he stay away from him?
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    Uh . . . . yes?

    You're asking an awful lot of me here, Joe. Trying to get me to be consistent and all.

    As for the free agents, I'd like to see them try to keep Nixon. He's got value both as a returner and as at least a backup slot. He's not too bad out there. At least he's not afraid to tackle.

    I know Dillon is beloved in Door County and all, but I just don't see the value of keeping him.
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    Gute could go full ted and patch the safety position together with whatever he can find at the local thrift store.
    pretty sure he did that this season. The 5th year on Savage was exercised the year prior and probably regretted it. They had to work around that 8M albatross with castoffs like Ford and Owens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    pretty sure he did that this season. The 5th year on Savage was exercised the year prior and probably regretted it. They had to work around that 8M albatross with castoffs like Ford and Owens.
    Before he got hurt I thought Ford was playing the best of all the Packers safeties. And I think the Packers originally signed him because he was a ST stud. So I think they'll try to bring him back. And Anthony Johnson Jr. will be back. The rest I don't much care about. Safety is a position where I expect Gute might be looking in FA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Before he got hurt I thought Ford was playing the best of all the Packers safeties. And I think the Packers originally signed him because he was a ST stud. So I think they'll try to bring him back. And Anthony Johnson Jr. will be back. The rest I don't much care about. Safety is a position where I expect Gute might be looking in FA.
    With our cap space, I question whether we'll be able to afford any significant safety upgrade with our cap issues. We still have a ton of dead money, and a Top 7 or 8 quarterback to extend. But if Gute sounds confident, it makes me wonder if he has more cuts or restructures in mind than some of us are thinking.
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    I think this team would do well in focussing on defense, defense and more defense in response to the needs of this team.

    On offense we have a feeding frenzy at wr and te looks good with kraft and Musgrave just reps reps and more reps...

    The offensive line is in my world the most misunderstood because these guys had Love running for his life and he honestly looked like tarvaris Jackson God rest his soul, at times. Elgton is the only name and Myers has never really developed like I hoped linsley and even EDS did, at the moment it's not a position of strength and consistency but it seems like the talent might be in house for at least 3 spots..

    Kenny Clark leaving would suck. He's a poor man's Chris Jones but he's our poor man and if you got nothing better give him an honest reflection of his worth and then let him make a decision..

    Devondre Campbell has not been worth the investment in some ways and I wouldn't be surprised he's gone. Preston too, he's been great but I think LVN gotta play more and establish himself..more talent outside that can make an impact immediately is the most essential thing for this team..

    Secondary just need a good safety and savage has been inconsistent so I don't think he returns unless circumstance.

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    Carlson actually annoys me a lot. His brother is good. But nobody remembers Jordan Rodgers

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    Joe Whitt finally getting his shot. Good for him. Kinda surprised he didnt stick around in Big D with Big Mac. Do you think Al Harris gets a shot at the job, or do they bring in somebody else and cut Al free? Would be cool to see him in GB as press coverage extraordinare in some capacity. Kinda think he could still play in a pinch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by australianpackerbacker View Post
    Carlson actually annoys me a lot. His brother is good. But nobody remembers Jordan Rodgers
    His brother though also had some issues early in his career before finding his way. Got cut by Minnesota and Oakland before excelling with the Raiders. Packers will give him a chance to turn this around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    His brother though also had some issues early in his career before finding his way. Got cut by Minnesota and Oakland before excelling with the Raiders. Packers will give him a chance to turn this around.
    To his credit, the kid did come back from his misses. That's a sign of resiliency.

    I don't follow the money side of the NFL very well, so I have no idea if any of the top free agent safeties would be affordable to the still-cash-strapped Packers, and I don't know if any of them have the skill set needed for either of the safety positions the Packers now will feature.

    Anyone out there with more knowledge care to comment?
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