Who Should Gute Draft At #25? 1.0

[Joemailman]

I've excluded the following from the poll because they will likely be gone. If you disagree and want to vote for one, pick "Other":

Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels, Marvin Harrison Jr., Brock Bowers, Malik Nabers, Joe Alt, Dallas Turner, Rome Odunze, Olumuyiwa Fashanu, Taliese Fuaga, Terrion Arnold, Jared Verse, Quinyon Mitchell, J.C. Latham

Poll to follow.

[jklowan]

I've excluded the following from the poll because they will likely be gone. If you disagree and want to vote for one, pick "Other":

Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels, Marvin Harrison Jr., Brock Bowers, Malik Nabers, Joe Alt, Dallas Turner, Rome Odunze, Olumuyiwa Fashanu, Taliese Fuaga, Terrion Arnold, Jared Verse, Quinyon Mitchell, J.C. Latham

Poll to follow.

I think it's Cooper DeJean, or a possible trade down and Graham Barton

[Joemailman]

Cooper DeJean. Honorable Mention: Troy Fautanu

[Anti-Polar Bear]

What’s with the all the love for Dejean? Take way the pale skin, and DeJean is basically a Josh Jackson clone.

[Spaulding]

Although I don't think DeJean will last until the Packer's pick, I selected him out of hope as seems to be both possibly the BPA and a position of need much like Raji was years ago.

[Joemailman]

Jackson was a 1 year wonder. And slower than DeJean.

[Frozen Tundra]

What’s with the all the love for Dejean? Take way the pale skin, and DeJean is basically a Josh Jackson clone.

I don't understand this DeJean hysteria either. It's like some sort of a cult.

The dude has not played a single snap since he was injured on November 11th. At that time, the consensus of most of the early mocks was that he was somewhere between lower half of the first and middle of the second round. Since then, he's somehow become a lock for the middle of the 1st and I've seen some people suggesting Top Ten.

Why? Is he doing his rehab on Planet Krypton or something? Why would an injured and inactive player climb so steadily and so high in the draft rankings?

It makes no sense to me.

But I went with Nubin, tentatively. Safety is the only position I would want to spend a 1st round pick on, and he's probably the last man left standing at the position who might warrant that. If he's not there (or even if he is, but Gute doesn't see him as best value), I'd just as soon drop back, gather some extra Day 2 picks, and use them to increase our chances of strengthening the position in the 2nd and 3rd Rounds. I'd love to see Cole Bishop in this defense, but I don't love him "#25 worth".

But then again, things will likely change between now and then anyway. I think it's quite likely Gutekunst solves at least half our safety problem in free agency next week, and once the dust settles from that, we'll have a much better idea of what the team needs are.

[Bretsky]

bring on the Chop

[Joemailman]

Cooper's stock dropped after he got hurt, recovered, and has been pretty steady for a while now. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com.../cooper-dejean It's dropped slightly since he reported at combine he had a broken fibula.

[texaspackerbacker]

Interesting that you worded it SHOULD draft, not WILL draft. I haven't done enough checking to make a choice, There are, however, some positions I don't want in the first round.

[sharpe1027]

I doubt he's available by the Packers' pick, but Chop could really augment the existing pass rush with his speed.

[Joemailman]

I doubt he's available by the Packers' pick, but Chop could really augment the existing pass rush with his speed.

I think it's 50/50 with him. A lot of big boards have him rated right around #25 overall and most mock drafts have him going in the 20's. He's generally rated the #4 Edge.

[Fritz]

I doubt he's available by the Packers' pick, but Chop could really augment the existing pass rush with his speed.

Plus, in practice, when Hafley wants the defense to really hustle, he would get to say "Let's go! Chop Chop!"

[sharpe1027]

I think it's 50/50 with him. A lot of big boards have him rated right around #25 overall and most mock drafts have him going in the 20's. He's generally rated the #4 Edge.

I get he's one dimensional being smaller and with short arms. Some OTs will be fast enough to neutralize him. If you have a guy like Gary that can power rush to rotate with, you can exploit more weaknesses in the OT. Some OTs are better at countering power and some at speed, few are outstanding at both.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Interesting that you worded it SHOULD draft, not WILL draft. I haven't done enough checking to make a choice, There are, however, some positions I don't want in the first round.

First round positions the Packers should avoid like the plague, at least this year: OL, DT, RB, QB, K, P, LS.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Jackson was a 1 year wonder. And slower than DeJean.

From what I read from the draft experts, DeJean ain’t hip-hop enough to play corner, meaning he ain’t got the hip game to be a mano-a-mano lockdown corner that Haf-Fucked prefers. Dejean appears to be a Cover-2 zone corner.

Sure, the dude could be a hip hop safety. But what’s with moving white corners to safety? It’s akin to moving Black QBs to WR.

[texaspackerbacker]

First round positions the Packers should avoid like the plague, at least this year: OL, DT, RB, QB, K, P, LS.

I agree. Add WR and TE to that also.

I'd rather get a Safety in free agency, as it seems to me that relying on a rookie Safety, even a good one, is a risky thing.

[ThunderDan]

OTHER

I am going with Amarius Mims. I would take Murphy or Newton but I don't believe they will be available when the Packers pick.

[Joemailman]

My bad. Mims should have been in the poll. That was an oversight.

[Deputy Nutz]

I voted for Barton, but he didn't run at the combine. Nubin is also high on the list. I would go with both of these guys simply because that is the biggest need on the roster.