Good deal, I like Dillon.Originally Posted by George Cumby
and YES! Stop running him from the shotgun, especially on 3rd and 1!
Good deal, I like Dillon.
and YES! Stop running him from the shotgun, especially on 3rd and 1!
If Dillon really puts his focus on speed and explosiveness and eases up on the weight lifting for size, he could drop a few pounds and get a little more burst and have 3 more years in the league.
Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
It's a combination of both, but you can't stop time. Technicaly, you're suffering an injury - multiple injuries - every time you get tackled. They're usually very minor injuries (bruises, sprains, muscle strains, etc) but it's still an injury that your body has to heal. That's why it hurts so much the next day; your body is healing those injuries. For most of an RB's career, 6 days is plenty of time to heal up before you go back out there and aggravate the same injury, but even then, you probably still feel a lot of those hits a week later, and the net effect is by the end of the season you've got a hundred places that are (at best) sore, and in some cases, really bothering you a lot.
You talk to just about any college of NFL player, at any contact position, and they'll tell you that from at least Week 2 or 3 until the end of the season, they're in some kind of pain every single day from injuries that just never had sufficient time to heal. In 2013, there was a survey done of 500 former NFL players, and 91% report significant, life-changing pain on a daily basis to the point where some can't even walk more than a few yards. Even Don Majkowsk, a quarterback, has had dozens of surgeries, and would be in poverty if he hadn't invested wisely, because he is incapable of holding down any kind of job.
You just don't heal as fast when you'e older, or as completely. It's not possible; the cumulative effect of all those tissue tears and joint strains combined with an aging body are an insurmountable barrier. As you age, the body's regenerative response (the healing process) not only slows down, it just doesn't work as completely, period. Bioligically, there's simply no need for it. We're genetically designed for maximum survivability during the reproductive stage of our life, so that we can spread our DNA and prepetuate the species, but once we're past the child-bearing and child-rearing phase of of our life, we've served nature's purpose. And it's time to shut things down, move on, and stop consuming the tribe's valuable resources.
You take OJ Simpson at age 22, vacuum-freeze him in plastic, and thaw him out 10 years later, there's just no way you're going to get 11,000 career yards out of the man, and you're sure never going to see him tear off 2000 yards over 14 games when he's 37.
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Spending $2M on Dillon is a waste of money. I suppose he at least knows the playbook and can spell Jacobs or others for a few plays.
It’s not thrilling but it’s okay. I suppose this means they can draft a couple of very developmental running backs in later rounds if they so choose, since they’re going to need to draft about four linebackers and three safeties early on just to have enough players at those positions.
Not the revamping of the running back room I had hoped for.
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Josh Jacobs and Xavier McKinney will speak to the media in the Packers locker room this morning. Jacobs at 9 a.m., McKinney at 9:30.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Draft Will Shipley and they'll be good.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
I just had an image pop into my brain. Similar to will Ferrell, APB running down the street, underwear around his neck screaming "I didn't even pay for this....it was a credit card!!!"
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
He lacks great vision. That will always limit him. Might as well stay big.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
Did ya'all cap fanatics read the article that the Packers used an obscure rule that let them sign Dillon and $1.45 million won't count against the cap? Something about how he is a fan-favorite with four years on the team or something.
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After his rookie season, it seemed to me that he tried to emulate Jones' running style, which obviously didn't work as their strengths are so different.
The Packers are clearly in a cap hell.
Why the fuck haven’t they cut Cletidus Clark yet? This bum has a 27M cap hit. Cutting this bum will open up about 3M. This bum clearly ain’t worth the 15M he will get paid this season.
I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
His cap hit is so high because they've converted salary to bonus twice to gain cap space, and now that he's in the last year of his deal they can't do much else with it.
Clark might be the best IDL in the NFCN. If you think that's not worth $15M in salary, consider what the NYG just paid Runyan Jr. to play Guard.
He doesn't have good vision, and he's not a playmaker at a position where you want a playmaker. His yards after contact and broken/missed tackles numbers aren't good either.
However, Dillon does some things well that make him a pretty good RB3 - pass protection, catching dump offs, running out the clock. He doesn't fumble, but he doesn't break off many 10+ yard runs (8 last year out of ~180 carries). 3 yards and a cloud of dust.
I don't know what the actual numbers are yet, but if it ends up being 1yr, 2.25M with about 250K guaranteed, it's fine. The provision being used to sign him says 1.45M of that wouldn't count against the cap, so he could still be cut with a 250K cap hit (or whatever money is guaranteed) at worst.
You absolutely still bring in a RB or two from the draft or UDFAs. They will do for the RB room what they did for the WR room last year -- bring in competition and let the best guys win. Emanuel Wilson better get ready.
Signing Dillon isn't a bad move -- it's a little surprising given his declining production, that's all. I think it's fine for depth but doesn't move the needle at all.
You know I don't like sarcasm hahahahaha. You also know, that while you and I have solidarity about the cap, we differ greatly about the value of Kenny Clark. Assuming that $27 million cap hit is accurate, they should restructure him i.e. cook the cap regarding his contract. What the "ya'all" crowd as I call them do not seem to understand that the reason why the cap is not a problem is that you can deal with it intelligently by kicking things on down the road.
With Aaron Donald retiring, Clark just might be the best D Lineman in the league.
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don't like resigning dillon
he averaged a 1 per carry less then jones, running the same plays with the same line. thats crap. but he is the coaches favorite that he's back
throw in nixon and his insane 6 million a year for a guy who should be nothing more then a return guy to the 2 million that dillon is getting, and you should have just kept jones and had the best RB tandem in the league
I know Gute's been talking a lot about Wilson's ready to take the next step, and he's poised to have a big year and all that, but this may mean they're not as sure of that as they say they are. I know I'm sure not; I never saw anything particularly special from him last season. We may see RB early this year after all, Day Two.
I'm about 50/50 about signing Dillon. He was cheap, really cheap considering the cap rule I referred to above. Also, I'm not quite as negative as some about his performance last season. Given what we have heard about Jacobs, it would be more feasible to have Dillon, a backup rather than a fairly equal rotating RB. I've been advocating getting that kind of fairly equal rotating RB in the draft (Braelon Allen for example). That might be less likely now. And then there's Wilson who supposedly the Packer brass really like. So what will happen? I think they still draft a good RB around the 2nd or 3rd and keep 4 RBs. Where on the roster do they eliminate a spot? No idea. We've got easily 6, maybe as many as 7 or 8 WRs worth keeping. With the signing of Davis, we likely will keep 4 TEs. We pretty much always have about 9 O Linemen with several vegetating on the bench, not even being worthy of playing special teams. I doubt we trim the numbers on D, all things considered. So all things considered, even though I like Dillon, I wish they hadn't signed him, as it complicates the whole mess.
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The price is good for what he brings. Other than knowing he isn’t going to get 10+yards on any given play he is solid. Also not used right at times. He had 0 fumbles last season (3 in career 2 came in one game) and that alone is worth it IMO. He was able to give Jones breathers so he should be able to do the same with Jacobs hopefully in a lesser capacity.
It's a good sign. He's got one thing going for him, he's got a lot to prove. He's a funny guy. His speed doesn't come into play until his 3rd stride. If you zero him early, he goes down. Solid in pass pro and doesn't fumble as Mad says. Many guys need that 3rd season to get it together, you'd hope he's in that category.
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