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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    hahahaha ok, what do you think it means? I use the term to mean crowd following/peer pressure/somebody swallowing some shit and various others (I'll refrain from calling them dumbasses so as not to insult you hahahaha) respewing the same shit. It happens in here a lot - cliquish behavior.
    When te entire world disagrees with you, they're not a clique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    Yeah it's been well established Tex doesn't know OL.
    FWIW, I saw a PFF chart that showed Jordan Love was pressured 212 times last year. Dak was pressured 229 times, Brock Purdy 245, Jalen Hurts 270, Mahomes 303 (!)

    I honestly don't care if they draft Graham Barton at 25 if he becomes the next Zach Martin. I'm expecting it their R1 pick to be non-splashy tbh. They aren't drafting a WR without trading someone (Watson? Doubs?) to make room.
    I just saw a mock with a new name thrown out there and it screams Gutes to be honest. Payton Wilson LB. 9.88 RAS and the number that jumped out to me was 17.5 tackles for a loss. He has size too at 6'3" and 233. Can probably pack 10 pounds of muscle if he is a self starter. No one really thinks LB as our first rounder in this particular draft, but we have a need, dude can ball, and Gutes rarely follows the "mocks". This is a total outlier and I could totally see him pulling that trigger while we all throw shit at the TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    There are far more examples of a single voice being wrong and the crowd being right.
    Naturally. I thought that was embedded in my post.
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    Payton Wilson

    The problem is he is an older prospect with a major injuries history. Outstanding player - but those are pretty heavy red flags.
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    i just heard on one of the packers podcasts that the 25th pick has been traded 8 times in the last 7 years and 15 times in the last 19 years

    strong chance we don't keep that pick

  6. #686
    Quote Originally Posted by The Shadow View Post
    Payton Wilson

    The problem is he is an older prospect with a major injuries history. Outstanding player - but those are pretty heavy red flags.
    yeah those are

    good looking player, but i don't think you take him in the first with those flags

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    i just heard on one of the packers podcasts that the 25th pick has been traded 8 times in the last 7 years and 15 times in the last 19 years

    strong chance we don't keep that pick
    Yep. The team holding the 25th pick probably doesn't have a 1st round grade on anyone left. The teams that move up are trying to fill a specific need.

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    The 25th pick in the draft hasn't been made by it's original holder since 2016 - that's 7 consecutive drafts where it was involved in some type of trade. It's also been utilized in a trade in 14 of the past 20 years.
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    anyone else completely confused by 3 of the top o-line prospects being

    Fautanu
    fashanu
    and Fuaga

    thats a lot of f's and vowels

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    Fuck 'em. I don't fathom Packers will have a shot at any of them. Fashanu is my fave, but there is a fair chance Fautanu will fall to 25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    yeah those are

    good looking player, but i don't think you take him in the first with those flags
    Wouldn't take him at 25. But with 2 2nd and 2 3rd round picks, I'd be tempted to take him at 41. Walker and Wilson could cover a lot of ground. Wilson could even line up as box safety in some situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    i just heard on one of the packers podcasts that the 25th pick has been traded 8 times in the last 7 years and 15 times in the last 19 years

    strong chance we don't keep that pick
    8 times in 7 years....that is a lot....like 114% of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Yep. The team holding the 25th pick probably doesn't have a 1st round grade on anyone left. The teams that move up are trying to fill a specific need.
    Also teams at 25 are "so close" and probably trade up just as often ...just my theory without looking.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    8 times in 7 years....that is a lot....like 114% of the time.
    it was used in a trade up, then the new team traded back again from it

    it was actually last year

    giants had #25. traded to the jags to move up one spot, then jags traded it to the bills for pick #27 and a 4th

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    I think I would love this haul if possible, would add a toughness to this team

    Troy Fautanu
    T.J. Tampa
    Edgerrin Cooper
    Jaden Hicks
    Trey Benson or Braelon Allen

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    anyone else completely confused by 3 of the top o-line prospects being

    Fautanu
    fashanu
    and Fuaga

    thats a lot of f's and vowels
    Yep, every time one is mentioned, I have to look them up and try to remember which one is which and what school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    it was used in a trade up, then the new team traded back again from it

    it was actually last year

    giants had #25. traded to the jags to move up one spot, then jags traded it to the bills for pick #27 and a 4th
    Ah...well played sir. I thought it was a typo and was having a little fun.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    When te entire world disagrees with you, they're not a clique.
    A clique is when one dumbass claims something and some other dumbasses follow like sheep saying oh yeah, oh yeah, it must be true. A common characteristic of such cliques is that they have vastly overrated ideas of the extent that their crap is swallowed. Sound familiar? hahahaha
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    clique
    noun
    ˈklik also ˈklēk
    Synonyms of clique
    : a narrow exclusive circle or group of persons
    especially : one held together by common interests, views, or purposes
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    A clique is when one dumbass claims something and some other dumbasses follow like sheep saying oh yeah, oh yeah, it must be true. A common characteristic of such cliques is that they have vastly overrated ideas of the extent that their crap is swallowed. Sound familiar? hahahaha
    Nope. When the entire world disagrees with one individual, the entire world is not a clique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Ah...well played sir. I thought it was a typo and was having a little fun.
    it wasn't my find, i just repeated what i head on a podcast

    it does sound stupid when you first hear it, but then after you know the details you go "oh well yeah that makes perfect sense"

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