2024 4th Round Pick #111 Overall Evan Williams -S - Oregon

[George Cumby]

I just don’t see what Gute saw in this guy. He’s a 6th round pick, not a 4th round pick. The worst pick in 2024 for the Packers.

Jim Nagy seems to disagree;

https://twitter.com/jimnagy_sb/statu...593204431?s=46

[Fritz]

Jim Nagy seems to disagree;

https://twitter.com/jimnagy_sb/statu...593204431?s=46

I think Rashang nailed it - Guter’s calculus seems to have changed slightly. I’m reading a lot more “he’s a good football player” comments (which means, in part, “he’s not very athletic”) and a lot fewer “great athlete but lacks football instincts” comments, at least in terms of the second half of this year’s class. Something seems to have changed.

[Jaire]

I think Rashang nailed it - Guter’s calculus seems to have changed slightly. I’m reading a lot more “he’s a good football player” comments (which means, in part, “he’s not very athletic”) and a lot fewer “great athlete but lacks football instincts” comments, at least in terms of the second half of this year’s class. Something seems to have changed.

It's the anti-Savage/HaHa draft. Instead of grabbing one super athlete, they use the same capital to draft three heavy hitter team captains and let them duke it out.

[Joemailman]

I think Rashang nailed it - Guter’s calculus seems to have changed slightly. I’m reading a lot more “he’s a good football player” comments (which means, in part, “he’s not very athletic”) and a lot fewer “great athlete but lacks football instincts” comments, at least in terms of the second half of this year’s class. Something seems to have changed.

One thing people were commenting on was the number of team captains Gute drafted this year. Packers have always wanted character guys, especially in early rounds, but it seemed especially obvious this year.

[Joemailman]

I think Rashang nailed it - Guter’s calculus seems to have changed slightly. I’m reading a lot more “he’s a good football player” comments (which means, in part, “he’s not very athletic”) and a lot fewer “great athlete but lacks football instincts” comments, at least in terms of the second half of this year’s class. Something seems to have changed.

Not as many 9+ RAS guys in this draft. Not sure if that's a change of approach, or just the reality of this draft class.

[run pMc]

Jim Nagy seems to disagree;

https://twitter.com/jimnagy_sb/statu...593204431?s=46

Yeah I heard about this. He was supposedly good in the Senior Bowl practices.

I liked the way people were talking him up, but I watched him vs OR, ORSt., and USC and... didn't really like him.
I don't think his range is great and he's a little out of control when he comes up to tackle. OR played him everywhere and even blitzed him, so he's got some versatility.
He's better either closer to the LOS or deep in a 2-deep shell (I don't see him as a single high deep safety). He can play the robber role in a Cover 1.

Maybe he can be coached up, but I didn't think he was a high upside guy.
Seems like a pretty fearless, physical, and aggressive player. Is he supposed to be GB's version of Hufanga?

I'm less enthusiastic about him now, but he's about equal to what they had last year, he's got a cheap contract, and he might get better.

One other thing: watching the OR-USC game, and Caleb Williams has some crazy scrambling ability and a good arm, but there's some chaos and mess to his game that needs to be cleaned up. He's not Peyton Manning.

[RashanGary]

Yeah I heard about this. He was supposedly good in the Senior Bowl practices.

I liked the way people were talking him up, but I watched him vs OR, ORSt., and USC and... didn't really like him.
I don't think his range is great and he's a little out of control when he comes up to tackle. OR played him everywhere and even blitzed him, so he's got some versatility.
He's better either closer to the LOS or deep in a 2-deep shell (I don't see him as a single high deep safety). He can play the robber role in a Cover 1.

Maybe he can be coached up, but I didn't think he was a high upside guy.
Seems like a pretty fearless, physical, and aggressive player. Is he supposed to be GB's version of Hufanga?

I'm less enthusiastic about him now, but he's about equal to what they had last year, he's got a cheap contract, and he might get better.

One other thing: watching the OR-USC game, and Caleb Williams has some crazy scrambling ability and a good arm, but there's some chaos and mess to his game that needs to be cleaned up. He's not Peyton Manning.

Jim Nagys job is to gas up the senior bowl players. It doesn’t mean anything. But he could still be good. Never know.