PREDICT JORDAN LOVE'S NEXT CONTRACT

[Bretsky]

I can't believe this debate isn't already going on.

Two weeks ago, I think I would have predicted 4 years, 205,000, and about 150,000,000 guaranteed

Would have seemed reasonable. Give him a nice deal for his youthful upside. We believe in him. Gute does too. Russ Ball and GB often start out with a lowball but after a while of negotiating they will come together. I though my old prediction was reasonable. He should not get as much as Joe Burrow, or Lamar Jackson, but this was close.

THEN HOLY SHIT Goff happened. Lions, you are kidding right ? 4 year 212,000,000 for

On one hand this is NOT Goff's first big money deal, so he's earned the right to drive a hard bargain.

But he just made Russ Ball's job a lot harder. And now Love has to debate if he's willing to not bust the Packers balls on his first big deal. Perhaps, he could take a somewhat Packer Friendly deal of 3-4 years knowing he'll have another huge payday if he excels. And perhaps he's not willing to go into this season, risking major injury so he accepts a bit less. Or maybe he has balls of steel and goes for the gold.

One thing seems obvious. THis just got harder. And remember every million Russ Ball savesi is money that can get folled into guys like Kenny Clark, and our WR"s and TE's in a couple years when we have to start paying them.

SO WHAT SAY YOU RATS ?

Debate, and Predict the Final Terms of the Jordan Love Contract. Most ljikely it's for 4 years.

So give it your best shot to predict the total contract amount, and guarnteed money, which is also a huge part of this.


Hope you are all doing well !!

[RashanGary]

Same as Goff. Maybe we go 5 years. The longer it goes the more it can turn into a discount.

[MadScientist]

Same as Goff. Maybe we go 5 years. The longer it goes the more it can turn into a discount.

Agree about the 5 years becoming a discount. I heard a discussion about how much the cap is expected to rise in the next couple of years, so the same percentage of the cap for a QB will be like $80M. Goff is a good QB, but they are paying him like he's elite, so Love has reason to expect that range too. So my guess is 5/270, 175 guaranteed. And really hope he stays healthy

[texaspackerbacker]

Obviously Love is worth way more than Goff but I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers get him signed for less than many expect.

I'm gonna go with an assumption that the Packers are pretty far ahead of the game cap-wise. So I'll guess less backloaded than they could if they had to. Make it five years, $75m bonus, salary $25m, $35m, $45m, $50m, and $55m with the first three years guaranteed. That's $285m with $180m guaranteed. Cap hit is $40m, $50m, $60m, $65m, and $70m.

[Scott Campbell]

The Packers want 5 years. Love's camp wants 3. I think they split it at 4. But they are 4 years added to the end of his current contract, meaning we've got him locked up for 24, 25, 26, 27 and the contract expires after the 28 season.

With Goff getting $53M/year, I think Love could average $60. I'm certain he'll average over $55M/year. I'll guess $232M total new money over 4 years. $78M signing bonus. $155M in total guaranteed money.

Meager salary stays the same for this year, but with a $78M signing bonus in his pocket, he'll make due.

[smuggler]

I think we address this next offseason and it's either 60+ aav or a franchise tag.

[Joemailman]

An extension will be signed before preseason games start. 4 years, 230 million.

[bobblehead]

This was debated in another thread awhile ago. I predicted that when he signed it would be the largest contract ever for an NFL player (which is always a QB). Just like every new deal is. It will be too much, but hopefully the impact won't be felt for a few years. Then in a month or so, some guy who doesn't deserve as much as Love will get more. This is the way.

[MadtownPacker]

It will probably happen mid season if things are going well. But Bobble is right is going to be a real financial asswhuppin for the Pack no matter what. Short but $weet works for me.

[Upnorth]

I would love yo see a 6 year 360 million contract.
That's 60 average per year, but starting 2026 will look cheap.

It resets market to make love and his agent happy. Then if we can get a 4 year extension later on we can eventually trade love to the Jets

[Fritz]

Usually the player wants a longer contract, for security’s sake, and the team wants to protect itself against serious injuries with a shorter contract. This is all making my head hurt.

Besides, even if a player gets a longer deal and he outperforms it as the market value increases, that player will often go from gruntled to disgruntled, and things get ugly. So give him the three years or four years he wants, and let’s do the dance again. That way, if he turns out to be really, really good, and then morphs into the asshole that many of the great ones do, the Packers can trade him to the Jets for a dozen first- and second-round picks.

[Scott Campbell]

Usually the player wants a longer contract, for security’s sake, and the team wants to protect itself against serious injuries with a shorter contract. This is all making my head hurt.

I don't think that ligic holds up anymore because of the pace of QB salary escalation. Look at how cheap Mahomes contract looks now.

These guys want to get back into free agency as quick as possible. Kirk Cousins was the master.

Andy Herman said the Packers wanted 5, and Love's camp wanted 3. I can't remember if he had a source on that, or was just speculating.

[texaspackerbacker]

This maybe should be in that other thread about idiotic articles, because it certainly is. I saw a thing that suggested that Jordan Love might sit out the season.

The QBs/players in general who want those shorter term contracts etc. are either malcontents who don't like where they are OR lacking in self-confidence that they will be good long term. Neither of those seems true of Love. Cousins was/is overrated and overpaid, and he probably knew it.

I also reject the idea that the Packers are in bad shape cap-wise. Rather, the Packers are in good enough shape that they don't need to push it to the limit.

[Bretsky]

IF we EXTEND Love now and give him a sideloaded signing bonus it's reasonable to get some type of discount.

Jordan Love hasn't hit the motherf@ck of all signing bonuses yet.

Give him a huge signing bonus, and get a slight slight discount on the annual. Doesn't that sound reasonable? Where is Mahommes now annually ? Josh Allen ?

I don't wanna give the dude 60MIL after seeing him look crappy for half the year and really dam good the second half. I have faith he's going to be really dam good but I don't know if he's going to be a super star yet

Scheftner reported GB is very far apart with Love. Gute announced a couple months ago that we should not expect to get this deal done that soon. IT's reasonable to think this might be a tough negotiation.

We have a lot of very talented guys to sign to contract in the next few years. Saving money hear could be the difference in signing, or losing a #2 WR

[texaspackerbacker]

I tend to not believe the media puke who says it's gonna be tough negotiation. The Packers are in great shape cap-wise, so they don't need to hugely backload the contract. It's a lot more believable that Love would look at this team and decide he wants to be a part of it for a long time - and still get paid massively, of course, but just not being uncooperative about it. It seems like whenever there is a big contract coming up, you have wrongheaded media shit about it, and panicky posters eating the shit up - the usual suspects as I call them,

[MadScientist]

Saying a negotiation like this is going to be tough is like saying the sky is blue. The only ways it wouldn't be tough is if they both have the same numbers and length in mind (they don't), or if the Packers just give Love whatever he wants (they won't, at least without a fight). Yes the Packers should be able to work any one contract under the cap, but it will impact other decisions down the road.

[texaspackerbacker]

To a very limited extent, you are right, but "tough negotiations" are generally the result of either a notoriously troublesome player or a dissatisfied player who really doesn't want to be on a team unless he can hold them up for way too much money? Do either of those seriously sound like Love? They sure don't to me. Reading crap from know-nothing media assholes about what Love thinks is just a matter of non-Packer people trying to stir up trouble. That has happened a ton of times before.

[Teamcheez1]

Love has played one season in the NFL.
He had a good stretch over the last 9 games.
IMO, this hasn’t earned him a contract that makes him at, or close to, the highest paid QB in the league.

Where do you rank him in regards to the other QB’s in the league?
Is he asking for top 5 money, because he’s not there yet.

[Joemailman]

Love has played one season in the NFL.
He had a good stretch over the last 9 games.
IMO, this hasn’t earned him a contract that makes him at, or close to, the highest paid QB in the league.

Where do you rank him in regards to the other QB’s in the league?
Is he asking for top 5 money, because he’s not there yet.

Rodgers signed a contract extension after playing 7 games of the 2008 season.

Green Bay - Flush with almost a $20 million surplus beneath the National Football League salary cap, the Green Bay Packers used up a sizable chunk of it Friday by signing quarterback Aaron Rodgers to a five-year extension through the 2014 season.

Citing a league source, the NFL Network reported that the contract was worth $65 million over six years, with $20 million guaranteed.

"It's certainly a market deal compared to other franchise quarterbacks," said David Dunn, Rodgers' agent for the last few months. "The Packers came at us aggressively for this to be a deal that is commensurate with his peers in the league. Because Aaron likes it so much there, it became an easy decision for him."

Club negotiator Russ Ball first contacted Dunn early in the bye week about 12 days ago. Agreement was reached Friday morning and Rodgers signed it after practice.

"It's surreal and it's humbling," Rodgers said, referring to his sudden change in wealth. "I mean, I'm in shock. I did not expect this at all."

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...gers-new-contr

"Now that Aaron Rodgers‘ contract numbers have come in — a five-year extension that gives him six more years for $65 million, including $40.5 million in first three years of the contract — they can be compared.

And Rodgers’ contract now makes him, remarkably, the fourth highest paid quarterback in the game, behind only Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer and Ben Roethlisberger."

[pittstang5]

The longer the Packers wait, the more money Love is gonna get. And when he gets paid, we'll all be surprised by what he gets until the next QB gets more. It is what it will be. Player salaries are always going up.