Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
I always wondered why you watch the View every day - you sick fuck.
In self defense of myself and family's safety
I see somebody commiting a violent & dangerous crime like armed robbery or rape
My own property has been trespassed and I fear my property is threatened
I see a large crime against property, such as insider trading
I see a small crime against property underway - my neighbor's car being burglarized
I see any crime underway
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
I always wondered why you watch the View every day - you sick fuck.
What the fuck are you calling them? Propertial interlopers? Borrowers of other people's shit?Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
Or is this like, "there is no spoon."
"You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
They weren't intruders of Mr. Horn's home.Originally Posted by SkinBasket
I think a lot of people (including Mr. Basket) didn't listen to the youtube audio of the 911 call. It really tells a story, Joe is pretty open about why he is gonna waste those two.
John Horn is every bit as much of a cold-blooded murderer as OJ. Our imperfect legal system excused both of them, but that doesn't mean we should approve of what they did.
Some people in our country are appalled that Islamic Law allows a thief's hand to be cut-off. The kooks in the Christian World, mostly concentrated in the U.S., go far more extreme: it's ok to murder an apparent thief, even if they aren't on your property and pose no threat.
Recently, tough-guy, gang-banger-pretend Madtown made a passionate speech about how it is wrong to prevent convicted felons from voting. Now he turns around and says it is right to prevent unconvicted felons from breathing or walking.
speeding....if someone is speeding down the road and could cause an accident that kills someone I put a 9mm drill bit in their forehead...I have no tolerance for law breakers.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
I think you should only wing somebody for jaywalking. No need to get all crazy vigilante here.
That doesn't make them not-intruders. Or is it only a crime if it affects you personally?Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
"You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
At the point where they followed him onto his property, they became intruders. According to the tapes on youtube and from what I can gather the ununiformed police officer had to say, he acted in self defense.Originally Posted by SkinBasket
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
Hmmmm. Did you listen to the youtube audio of the 911 call Harlan? Because many of the user comments there mirrored the comments on this site. It appears there are lots and lots of Americans that believe Joe is a hero.
Damn it, SC. *footstomp* *tantrum*Originally Posted by Scott Campbell
HAAAAAAAAAAAOriginally Posted by bobblehead
Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
Hmmmm. I don't remember Madtown saying that.
If Im such a pussy why didnt you accept my free ticket invite to the bears/Packers game last year? Cuz you aint nothing but a big, scary bitch. Real man, yeah right, you aint nothign but a real wimp.Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
As for you ignorant comment, I said convicted felons who have done their time and have gotten their shit together and are now contributing members of society should be allowed to vote again. These guys that got blasted dont fit that description so dont try to spin things cuz you really aint very good at it despite your belief that you are highly intelligent you fucking balls licker.
The proper response was.....YET....and now they won't be ever.Originally Posted by SkinBasket
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
Thats what makes Mr Horn a hero IMO. He did something that is badly lacking Im America today, not turning a blind eye to something bad going down right in front of him.Originally Posted by SkinBasket
If we thought a little more like Mr Horn the world would be a much better place.
Go ahead. I'm wearing a condom!Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
And I voted for the first one only.
Joe Horn murdered those two guys and he was wrong.
But I can't get excited about the injustice of not prosecuting him.
I'll bet crime goes down on his block anyway.
[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
1.) First of all, the term "cold-blooded murderer" implies to me someone killed a person with no remorse. Joe Horn has since expressed regret for what he did, and has stated that if he could relive the scenario, he wouldn't go outside. That doesn't sound "cold-blooded" to me.Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
2.) They were on his property, and they were posing a threat.
Public opinion of Joe Horn in the Houston area (which, by the way, is a lot more diverse than you'd like to portray. You want to see old "shoot-em-up Texas", head out towards El Paso). is 2-to-1 in support of Horn. I still say we pin a medal on the man, and no, I'm not a neo-con conservative. I've never owned, held, or shot a gun. I still wouldn't mind one bit if he moved next door to me.
ok, then they crank-open the crashed car and there in the back seat is the driver's dead, pregnant wife, about to give birth.Originally Posted by bobblehead
That doesn't make them not-intruders. Or is it only a crime if it affects you personally?[/quote]Originally Posted by SkinBasket
Are you saying that it is ok to shoot anyone you see committing a crime? Where do YOU draw the line? You were opposed to shooting teenagers spotted stealing beer from the neighbors garage. But you are cool with shooting fleeing columbians. Why the differentiation? (I suspect it is just a difference in anger, but speak for yourself.)
In my opinion, it is only a crime worthy of a shooting if someone's safety is at stake.
The handful of people who gave serious thought to this questions gave answers that I think most people will reach if they start thinking about the consequences. Firearms should only be used as a last resort, in self defense.
Originally Posted by Tarlam!
If these are the facts, then I agree he had a right to shoot the bastards.
But that doesn't sound likely. He shot both guys in the back as they were running away. Obviously a shot in the air would have accomplished his self-protection, if even that were needed. And the cops were already on the scene, and Joe Horn knew it, he shot them while he had the chance. The New York Times emphasised that it was "protection of property" that the jury used to let Smokin' Joe off.
That jury sounds a lot like the OJ jury.