Originally Posted by
pasquale
Originally Posted by
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Originally Posted by
MJZiggy
I already have and I'm not out $250. How much is that compared to the cost of an iPod again?
*Sigh*. Dealing with you is just painful. You don't use your head.
I will get my rebate, it is just a matter of getting on the horn with the right people. Are you honestly telling me you've never had any issues with rebates or haven't heard of this happening to anyone ever? If so, I envy you.
That said, iPod will be free after rebate. I already had an iPod so I sold it for cash on CL.
If you are content working on some thick, heavy, slow PC loaded with bloat ware, spyware and viruses, go ahead. Do yourself a favor and at least install Windows 7 or Ubuntu linux.
How is it that none of my PCs have any viruses, spyware, or whatever the hell bloatware is? It's not that hard to avoid clicking on the "punch the monkey" ads or "click here for a free ipod."
It amazes me how people think macs are just the most incredible, life changing purchase that can be made. It's a computer. I think a yo-yo would change my life more, since I'd learn a new trick.
Please give me an example of how it removes barriers from my life. Seriously. Sounds like something you'd hear from visiting a Scientology church.
They make nice products, but I think people have to be real idiots to think that PCs are just so much slower and bloated. If that makes you feel like a better person, kudos. But don't spill your koolaide on everyone else.
And if you are convinced that rebates are not always pain free, why are you so effin' mad?
Do you ever have to dilly dally with drivers of any sort on a PC? I have never on a Mac. I plug in my component and it works. I've seen you reformat a computer many times. How many hours of your life have you spent tinkering? Probably 50-100. Assuming you time is worth 100 dollars an hour, that is 5000 to 10000 dollars out of your pocket that simply owning a Mac you would never have to do.
I do agree that for a technophile such as you or I the experience of fine tuning a PC can be somewhat enjoyable, so it's not as black and white. I imagine it is hell for your typical user, though.
Some gripes on my end: Without installing cygwin (which is a pain in the ass from behind a proxy, btw, it took me awhile to figure it out), I can't even freaking grep. I use ps -ef | grep 'whatever I'm searching for' like 5 times a day. Why does Windows not have a similar utility built in by default? Good grief, it's not the 1980s anymore.
PCs are typically slower. Not from a hardware standpoint, but definitely from a software standpoint. From an OS standpoint, I think you and I can both agree that posix systems have a far superior level of memory management. Much more efficient at caching and using the resources available.
Go buy a new HP from Best Buy and look at all the crap pre-installed, set-up to run on boot. Look at all the shitty software they're paid to install to keep the price of the machine low. All the freaking shitty media players, disc writers, etc.
If you want to start with a fresh install from Dell for example, instead of a machine loaded with a bunch of shit, you have to pay an extra 50 dollars I'm pretty sure.
I fixed a gals Acer this summer because it took a Vista laptop over 3 minutes to boot into a useable state. My Mac? About 30 seconds. Imagine this happening every time you close the freaking the laptop. Wow. Not only that, just from a useability of the hardware standpoint, it was like comparing a chevy cavalier to an iron man audi. And that's completely disregarding speed. The keyboard sucked, the trackpad sucked (and the little scrolly thing didn't even work), it was a gigantic 15" screen with a 1280x800 res (aka extremely low DPI). You get what you pay for with that Acer shit and it was horrible. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
I'm mad because things like this don't happen to me. I'm a straight shooter who lives a very good life. I play by the rules and do not like to have to fuck around. Some DFI kid at the Apple store rang me up wrong and as a result I've had to dilly dally with a bunch of shit to get the rebate. I've done it two other times in the past with the same promotion and it was always pain free.
Macs are clearly a superior experience in my opinion and clearly in the general publics eye. That is why their market share is exploding and they're putting up record sales quarter after quarter. Can you honestly not tell me that you don't love how fine tuned your iPhone is? They're INCREDIBLE phones that nothing comes close to touching in terms of quality of the package. The refinement is what they're all about.
The only complaint about them that I've ever heard from anyone is AT&T related, never anything from the Apple end. The problem with them going with a carrier like Verizon is that Verizon is a control freak and wouldn't give Apple complete control over their package (ie. Having to buy music from the Verizon store instead of the iTunes music store, no visual voicemail, etc).
I love my MacBook Pro because it's an incredible machine. It is machined from a single piece of aluminum so it is built like a tank. Way nicer to carry, touch and has an overall way more solid feel than your typical notebook, even the higher end ones.
The keyboard is light years better than your typical PC. I don't think I've ever used a better mobile keyboard. At first I wasn't a fan of the chicklet keys but they have the perfect feel.
The Trackpad gets rid of those pesky small ass buttons that always management to click themselves when you're laying in bed working on the computer. Not only that, but I don't have to find some tiny line to scroll up and down. I can just drag two fingers wherever I want.
I HATE HATE HATE the new expose in Snow Leopard and believe it gets away from the core value of providing a productivity driven interface. It resizes all of your windows into a grid, versus keeping everything the same size and showing them all. Without having a reference to the size of the window it loses most of its value and it pisses me off. This is something that I literally use hundreds of times a day.
The typical person uses a computer for 8-10 hours a day. When you're spending that much time on it, anything you can do to improve the experience makes it a much more pleasant experience.