if you haven't heard about this then turn on your TV
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/...pt=T1&iref=BN1
NPR is reporting that her and 6 others are dead
if you haven't heard about this then turn on your TV
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/...pt=T1&iref=BN1
NPR is reporting that her and 6 others are dead
CNN is saying that the congresswoman is still in surgery.
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yeah they just changed it. everyone was reporting she was dead for about an hour, then they find out he's alive. real nice reporting there
what they are saying is that she was shot in the head at very close range (somewhere between 4 feet and point blank) and that they rushed her to the hospital where she is in surgery
at least 11 others where shot and there may be up to 6 fatalities
its amazing shes alive and responsive
bullet went straight through her brain
If a bullet enters and exits your brain, i don't see how you live. amazing. since it was so close maybe the bullet wasn't able to slow down enough to expand and only did "minor" damage.
i read that an intern that was only on the staff for a short time saved her life and the lives of some of the others. he ran back as everyone was running away. hero!
Last edited by Little Whiskey; 01-09-2011 at 08:56 PM.
that could be. i might test that theory with a watermelon. any talk of what caliber?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/09/...ex.html?hpt=T2
Swelling of the brain is the biggest threat Giffords faces, said Lemole. The bullet traveled through the left hemisphere of her brain from back to front, he said, and "not through some of those critical trajectories" that would have made recovery more difficult. The most traumatic gunshot injuries are when a bullet crosses from one hemisphere to another, he said.
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It's just a terrible thing. I hope this lady will be able to recover as much function as possible.
God bless the families of the dead and wounded.
First, condolances and prayers for those killed and their families and friends.
But I can't help but recall the case of Phineas Gage:
"Those who know the story of Phineas Gage will appreciate the photo below of Gage holding the famous railroad spike the pieced his brain. This is a true event that took place in 1848. Gage was the foreman of a construction crew laying a railroad roadbed. As he was packing powder and sand into a hole in rock, the powder detonated, sending the 13-pound tamper into his cheek and out of the top of his head. It landed 25 to 30 yards behind him.
Surprisingly, Gage never lost consciousness even though most of the front of the left side of his brain was destroyed. He made a full physical recovery over the following 10 weeks, but his personality was irreversibly altered. Whereas he had once been an intelligent and even-tempered worker, he had overnight become irreverent, grossly profane, obstinate, capricious and ill-tempered. His friends said he was "no longer Gage."
The story is taught in medical schools to emphasize that you do not need to lose consciousness to suffer a severe brain injury and that a brain injury can cause profound behavior changes in the individual."
Here's hoping Giffords makes a speedy and complete recovery, and doesn't suffer a dramatic personality shift. Friends of mine in her district say she is pretty exceptional.
After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.
I know you mean President Kennedy, but it reminded me of an article I read quite a while ago about the Robert Kennedy shooting. Several trauma experts agreed that an injury like Robert Kennedy sustained is now actually quite survivable because of techniques they have to control swelling, etc. Certainly not a sure thing, but unlike then, he would have had a chance now, and may have had even just 10-15 years after his shooting. A lot changed just after that, apparently. They differed about what he might have been like if he had survived.
they think the doctors are the ones who killed Lincoln and not Booth's bullet. had they left him alone he might have survived.
i know YOU mean RFK. but when i heard she survived the first think i thought was could ,medical technology really be that much improved from the times of JFK? could doctors today have saved JFK? of course the answer is probably no because he lost a lot of brain, but he was alive for a bit after the shot, i think he even made it to the hospital alive.
i never even thought about RFK. but it is amazing to see how far medicine has come in just 30 or 40 years
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7071IA20110112
Giffords would sustain some permanent brain damage from her bullet injury, Rhee said, although he remained hopeful she would recover to a "functional, viable, normal" state.
"I think ... without doubt. .. there's going to be some permanent damage that's going to occur from the bullet .... but will she be functional, viable, normal? I can't say for sure, but I'm very hopeful that she will be," he said.
Hopefully, she will not suffer any of the severe behavioral changes that sometimes happen even if her political career may be over.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen