Especially if Sherrod is still starting.Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi
Especially if Sherrod is still starting.
He's getting enough separation when they're in the red zone.
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Excellent points on Cobb and Adams. The only thing I don't agree with (honest) is Janis. You can't teach speed and he's got more of it than anybody on offense. I say let him play now. He'd be valuable on special teams if nothing else. Let him run the option like Harvin. What do we have to lose?
He reminds me of the old Packer Bob Long. Just point him downfield and let him run. ARod will find him.
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
I'd take either Toolbox or Bubba right now!
For the youngster rats...a really nice article on Bob Long: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...217686531.html
And Bob Long's website, complete with video of his playing days: http://boblongnumber80.com/
Long was as fast as Janis and about the same height and weight. Watch the videos and tell me Janis doesn't run and catch like Bob Long.
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
I love Toolbox. But the Toolbox never ran a wheel route like Rodgers. There is a difference between pedestrian speed and blocking specialist.
Ed got a lot of late career attention as a short pass and red zone target when Harris was hurt or double covered. Holmgren loved the TE in the red zone.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Wasn't disagreeing with Janis, just saying we haven't seen him yet, so who knows. He was not active the first two game (maybe he was for one?), pretty sure he hasn't seen the field yet. Need more time yet to see if he's going to work out.Excellent points on Cobb and Adams. The only thing I don't agree with (honest
He reminds me of the old Packer Bob Long. Just point him downfield and let him run. ARod will find him.
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This all sounds about right.
I look at a slot WR as the #3 WR. They often are not able to get off jams, and may not have excellent downfield speed.
Jerry Rice was not big. He was fast enough, althougth not a burner. I knew Jerry Rice. He was a friend of mine. You Randall Cobb are not Jerry Rice. (I only mention Rice because Cobb's limitations are not just size or even speed.)
I'm laying down the gauntlet for Cobb. I hate because I love. Show me you are more than a guy this year.
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We really could use Jackie Harris on this team. Aaron Rodgers would make him a Pro Bowl candidate.
Rodgers is slow though. I think we really need Bostick and his 4.59 pro day speed, and we need him to stay healthy.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Rice was 6'2" 200. He wasn't Calvin Johnson big, but he was bigger than average.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Or Keith Jackson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xqV4IEJX1I
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
And he came into the league 30 years ago (!!!) that was damn good size.
From the '6 degrees of separation' file, Al "the WR drafted before Rice" Toon's son, who also played for the Badgers, is with NO. Hasn't had a great start to his career.
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OK, Alex, Great WRs six foot or shorter.
Who is Tim Brown?
Maybe Cobb is too short to play WR.
Wes Welker - but don't they stick him in slot?
Is Cobb as good as DeSean Jackson or Welker?
Steve Smith is smaller than Cobb.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...-great-talent/
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Maybe you forgot your Viagra.
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Ya, he was not bad, eh?
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Slot receivers are really their own position, and height isn't nearly as important as on the boundary. In fact it's probably detrimental just because of physics, they need to be balanced and quick. Good slot guys would be like Percy Harvin, Wes Welker, Danny Amendola, Davon Bess, and Victor Cruz. These guys are running routes in the same space as a tight end so their skills should compliment those of a tight end.
This is why its so hard to find a good slot cornerback. You need the size to match up with a tight end, but need the ability to change directions to cover a water-bug type receiver like Cobb.
70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
A ton of great points in here but this one really nails what GB is missing
They miss a threat at TE the defense has to pay attention to.
They need a TE threat to emerge. Bostick is the only guy on this roster who might be able to be that IMO.
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Randall Cobb remains on double secret probation. As a wide receiver he looked like an excellent punt returner in Detroit.
In first quarter Cobb was streaking down sideline and let a perfectly arced pass slip through his hands. pbmax thought play was headed out of bounds, but I watched again with my more trained, scout's eye. I think it was a critical fuckup and mo changer.
Well, they all make mistakes. But Cobb isn't getting enough separation to make many plays or mistakes.
I don't know what answer is at wide receiver. Cobb is clearly an appetizer, somebody else has to be the second entree.
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