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    Who would hear this guy's name and think he's black?

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    Not going to lie, I don't see it with this guy. Awesome physical tools and doesn't shit his pants in the pocket but he takes forever to make his reads. Towards the end of the season you just seem him make one read and take off or decide where the balls going before the snap.
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    Shitty line and getting beat up will do that. Maybe he won't overcome that but it seems to me that you can coach/drill that out of him.

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    Great writeup of the top four QBs, that includes Hundley. There is a GIF of him being very patient in the pocket and going to the correct read with a blitz on. He is also 2 seconds too late and gets picked when it should have been an easy reception.

    http://grantland.com/features/2015-n...y-bryce-petty/

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    Brohm never could speed up his mental clock so nothing's guaranteed.

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    Nor could Vince Young.

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    Thanks for the deep insight, Ted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    I'd like to play some poker with the man.
    I'd spot him $5000 and take 20% of the return
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    UCLA had a progression read offense according to his college QB coach.

    Mazzone refutes the notion that Hundley didn't handle multiple reads in UCLA's offense. He said there is a "1, 2, 3, 4, 5" progression with every pass play and that Hundley made quick, effective decisions.
    His tip is that Hundley has to be more willing to throw into tighter windows.

    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...303023571.html
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    Longer quote about the UCLA offense from JSO story above, if you want to get slightly irrational, you can see teams passing on talent because they aren't comfortable with the college offense. However, its also clear that the UCLA offense is more Seattle in terms of progressions than West Coast Offense.

    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/303029201.html

    On the criticism that he didn't go through progressions in UCLA's offense... “Our offense is based off progressions. You do go through 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 through every passing play we have. The ball comes out quick in our offense, which is great, because in the NFL you can’t hang onto the ball very long. So with his quick delivery with his quick decisions he’s made throughout his whole career, I think he’ll do just fine in any NFL system he runs.

    “And watching that first Seattle/Green Bay game, Russell Wilson ran the zone read to the left, the outside receiver fake-blocked, went down the field and Russell threw it — Brett has run that play his whole career. He did it against Utah his sophomore year. So it’s kind of funny. They’re talking about how amazing that scheme was and I’m like, ‘We’ve been running that for four years now. It’s funny watching the NFL, and them taking ideas from college football, and it seems like, oh, that’s the first time it’s ever been shown. No, we do that every day.”
    The difference between his college and pro offenses? Pre snap reads were the most important reads he made in college.

    On other plays Hundley ran in college that could transfer... “I remember what the Dallas game and they’re in 2-back sets, and a couple times you see Aaron flip his feet real quick and throw a quick out to Randall. It’s like, man, Aaron makes these quick accurate throws and quick decisions and throughout Brett’s career that’s what he does for a living. Setting his feet and seeing, just by alignment, just horizontally who we have out flanked, that’s the whole offense we ran. So if you’re looking for a guy who can see the weakness of a defense on the second level to the third level, he sees it on every down. It’s not a huddle offense that runs the ball a lot that breaks the huddle, goes to the line of scrimmage, hands the ball off. We’re constantly looking for that defender that we cannot block as an O-Line. Brett’s awareness for knowing what the O-Line can’t handle, he did that every down on a run play, on a pass play.
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    That's some encouraging stuff.

    I don't think MM sees backup QB as just an insurance policy position. That guy is instrumental in preparing the defense by running the scout team offense. I don't think its any coincidence that since Wilson, Kaepernick, RGIII, and Newton all entered the NFC we brought in Seneca Wallace and Vince Young as our backups. Hundley has the superman toolset to give a real simulation of those guys.
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    Another thought I had about the Hundley pick is I wonder if part of this pick had anything to do with the owners discussions of changing the extra point. One of the proposed rule changes this year is to move it to the 1.5 yard line to incentivize teams to go for 2. This rule could birth the 2-pt specialist QB and you'd be hard pressed to find a better prototype than Hundley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I'd spot him $5000 and take 20% of the return
    Exactly!

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    Another thought I had about the Hundley pick is I wonder if part of this pick had anything to do with the owners discussions of changing the extra point. One of the proposed rule changes this year is to move it to the 1.5 yard line to incentivize teams to go for 2. This rule could birth the 2-pt specialist QB and you'd be hard pressed to find a better prototype than Hundley.
    I think for M3 it's all the above. For Ted it checked ALL the boxes of value. Talent/production/upside better than Round, important position where player is, before a snap is taken, likely an upgrade, and beside the Collins kid, he was probably the highest rated player on the board. I bet they thought about him in the fourth too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    Another thought I had about the Hundley pick is I wonder if part of this pick had anything to do with the owners discussions of changing the extra point. One of the proposed rule changes this year is to move it to the 1.5 yard line to incentivize teams to go for 2. This rule could birth the 2-pt specialist QB and you'd be hard pressed to find a better prototype than Hundley.
    thats what we need, more specialists


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    Interesting tidbits on Hundley from the GBPG:

    Two mornings after the NFL draft, UCLA coach Jim Mora Jr. called to see how his former quarterback was doing.

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    The fifth-round draft pick told him he already was watching film of the Packers' offense — five days before rookie minicamp.

    "That kind of, to me, indicates the type of mindset this guy has," Mora told Press-Gazette Media. "Monday morning, he's preparing for minicamp already. That's the kind of kid you're getting in Green Bay with Brett Hundley."

    Mora said he wasn't surprised his former pupil was studying. This is the Hundley he knew for four years at UCLA. The guy teammates voted a captain during fall camp entering his redshirt freshman season, before he'd ever taken a snap.

    At UCLA, Mora said, Hundley always was a leader. He outworked his peers, preparing even when nobody was watching. Mora said he expects Hundley to have the same work ethic in Green Bay.

    "He's just a very motivated kid," Mora said. "He has the keys to the meeting room, he has a film machine at home. He's the first one in, and the last one out. All those clichés that describe great work ethic and great leadership — Brett, he is the cliché."

    Eliot Wolf, the Packers' director of player personnel, described Hundley a different way Saturday. "Football nerd," Wolf called him. That was the first impression Wolf had after meeting Hundley at the NFL combine in February.

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    "I love football," Hundley said. "It's just who I am, and what's bred inside of me. I love being a quarterback. I love knowing everything about the game. I could sit here and watch film all day with you and just learn. I like knowledge, to put it like that.

    "If I don't know something, I want to know it, and I think that's the way I approach things. That's the way I approach football. I think Green Bay is the perfect organization to learn as much as possible, and they have the best coaches to help me do that, and Aaron Rodgers."
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    On Saturday, Hundley called landing in Green Bay a "blessing in disguise." Mora said he emphasized the point to him on the phone Monday.

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    And from JSOnline:

    From his HS coach:

    At Chandler High School (Ariz.), coach Jim Ewan kept Hundley on the junior varsity squad as a sophomore. Ewan admits Hundley wasn't happy about it, but then he outworked everyone.

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    "That's the kind of work ethic he has," Ewan said, "he'll outwork people in the weight room."

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    And Ewan points to a game vs. rival Centennial. Trailing, 28-27, Hundley led his team to the 8-yard line and threaded two passes to his go-to receiver in the end zone.

    Both were dropped. The game ended. Immediately Hundley ran over to hug his teammate.

    "Mentally," Ewan said, "he is the toughest kid I've ever worked with, and I've been doing this 44 years now."


    From UCLA QB coach Taylor Mazzone:

    Mazzone dives into the story of UCLA naming Hundley the starter the seventh practice of his sophomore year. He dropped to a knee, broke out in tears and called his dad immediately.

    "To see how much it meant to him to be named the starter is pretty special," Mazzone said. "For Brett to represent your team, you're in good hands."

    "I guarantee," Mazzone said, "when you see Brett's first practice and the ball's coming out, you'll think 'Wow, this kid could have been a top-tier pitcher in major-league baseball.'"

    Smarts? Mazzone remembers Hundley always carrying a notebook, writing down every word every coach told him. At the line, Hundley knew who the unblocked defender was. Mazzone never re-watched a game and wondered aloud, What is he thinking?

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    "I guarantee," Mazzone said, "when you see Brett's first practice and the ball's coming out, you'll think 'Wow, this kid could have been a top-tier pitcher in major-league baseball.'"

    Does he have a no baseball clause in his contract? Indians need a replacement for washed up Cy Young winner Corey Kluber.
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    From a tweet I saw online someone said he was the best looking QB he's seen in a rookie only camp in GB in a while. I can't remember who tweeted it presently...

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    so, what happens in 3 years if the kid starts to shine in preseasons and in other game time he might get

    do we trade him for big time picks, or do we have the favre saga pt deux?

    a-rod would be 34 by then

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