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    Thornton claimed by NE
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    Good; he was a worthless sack. NE also grabbed Worthy as well....well...for a bit at least
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    I don't know for sure how talent evaluation is done in the NFL, or for the Packers, but perhaps instead of having what appears to be just regional scouts, the team should think in terms of having positional scouts as well. Perhaps they do already, and if that's the case, they should look to replace whoever is providing advice on the DL's that they've been drafting higher than the 4th round. Is it the hardest position to project between college and pro, or is Green Bay not investing in enough high picks to have a shot at the talent that grades higher, are they just unlucky because of the injuries to the guys they've drafted, or are they just bad at forming a dominant DL?

    I don't blame guys who are drafted 5th-7th, or undrafted. It's the team's job to invest in talent, and those guys are just doing the best they can with the talent they have. Silk purse, sow's ear and all that. Datone Jones, I'm looking at you. You need to bring it this year. Jerel Worthy may have initially had bad luck in 2012 with his knee getting injured, but he had time to heal, and other opportunities, and couldn't make good. That's a bad projection on him. Kyhri Thornton was a reach as well. This guy never looked like a player. It's not that they didn't make it. Lots of players don't. It's that Packers wasted high picks, and are still struggling to find that solid unit on the DL. I give them credit for finding guys like Mike Pennel. Perhaps they should just stop drafting DL, or get a scout specialist who can spot a DL player when he sees one.
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    I haven't seen any comment here on Mitchell Henry being claimed by the Broncos off waivers. Is this one that got away (ala Charles Johnson) or just-a-guy?

    It's not like we have a multitude of talent at the TE position.

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    TT upset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
    I haven't seen any comment here on Mitchell Henry being claimed by the Broncos off waivers. Is this one that got away (ala Charles Johnson) or just-a-guy?

    It's not like we have a multitude of talent at the TE position.

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    TT upset?

    Ted was prob disappointed to lose him but that's the risk you take with these last cut-downs. Perhaps Mike and Ted felt because we kept 2 FBs having 3 TEs is sufficient?

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    Guys get away. I like Backman's potential as well as what Ripkowski brings over Henry all day long. We'll see but I'm not laying any money on Henry becoming the next Gronk any time soon.

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    Would have liked to see Henry on the PS, since he was so limited with a club on his hand. Surprised Denver took him for that same reason.
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    Luckily the discussion is about bottom of the roster turnover, and not key personnel. Obviously deciding who is going to fit into the limited number of spots can be difficult. More often than not, the guys that get away do not go on to have careers that make the team regret their decision making, with the notable exception of Charles Johnson (argghh!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
    Luckily the discussion is about bottom of the roster turnover, and not key personnel. Obviously deciding who is going to fit into the limited number of spots can be difficult. More often than not, the guys that get away do not go on to have careers that make the team regret their decision making, with the notable exception of Charles Johnson (argghh!)
    Lota love for Johnson on this board. Everyone really think he's going to be all that? Someone on this board that had some experience with him was pretty sure he'd implode. He did work his way through 3 colleges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiness View Post
    Lota love for Johnson on this board. Everyone really think he's going to be all that? Someone on this board that had some experience with him was pretty sure he'd implode. He did work his way through 3 colleges.
    The strong feelings are because he should be imploding for US!
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    and also if Johnson had stayed, there would probably be no Janis or JJ. Johnson could play on the outside. He was a size-speed project like Janis. He looked good last year because he had a leg up on the system Norv Turner brought over, plus the rest of the Vikings WRs were either pedestrian or frustrated with the QB/OL situation. Their offense is expected to be better with AP and year 2 of Bridgewater, but I'd rather have Greg Jennings than Mike Wallace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
    Luckily the discussion is about bottom of the roster turnover, and not key personnel. Obviously deciding who is going to fit into the limited number of spots can be difficult. More often than not, the guys that get away do not go on to have careers that make the team regret their decision making, with the notable exception of Charles Johnson (argghh!)
    After Gilbert Brown, I'll call it a wash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewsBruin View Post
    After Gilbert Brown, I'll call it a wash.
    Gilbert Brown helped the Packers get to 2 Super Bowls, and win 1. Charles Johnson helped the Vikings go 7-9. How is that a wash? This whole Charles Johnson thing has gotten kind of strange. If the Packers had kept him, he would have been their #4 WR last year. What's the big deal?

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    This year will tell the tale. He's had plenty of time to mature, learn his craft, all of that. We'll get a good gauge of how good he really is or isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Gilbert Brown helped the Packers get to 2 Super Bowls, and win 1. Charles Johnson helped the Vikings go 7-9. How is that a wash? This whole Charles Johnson thing has gotten kind of strange. If the Packers had kept him, he would have been their #4 WR last year. What's the big deal?
    Johnson, like Janis, is all about potential. Both still are. With 31 receptions last year but a higher ypc, Johnson was sort of like Boykin of 2013.

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    ooooohh...

    now that's a real 2015 cutdown!
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    At least Patler didn't say upside potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Gilbert Brown helped the Packers get to 2 Super Bowls, and win 1. Charles Johnson helped the Vikings go 7-9. How is that a wash? This whole Charles Johnson thing has gotten kind of strange. If the Packers had kept him, he would have been their #4 WR last year. What's the big deal?
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