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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    only for running backs, not any other position

    around 35 is when most players drop off, NOT 30

    a 30 year old guard is right in the middle of his prime
    Until you factor in the back issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    He paid both Sitton and Lang pretty big money for guards just a couple of years ago. So while Guard is not LT, CB or QB, they have spent some serious coin there. But probably not another deal at age 31.
    sitton got about 6 per year, although he didn't see the balloon year, so maybe closer to 5.5 per year

    lang got 4 per year, which isn't big money unless your a kicker

    actually sittons contract was like the 6th of 7th highest per year and and everyones favorite lane taylor is the 16th highest paid LG btw

    lang is the 7th highest paid RG based on average per year

    not terrible for what a lot of people called the best guard tandem in the nfl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freak Out View Post
    Sitton is gone. These guys are getting paid to do a job just like TT is.....if its a major fuckup he will have to answer for it....along with AROD The OL needs to stop talking about it and go out and do their jobs.
    no he won't be held accountable. the jokes that cover the packers (and are basically packers employees) will just let it slide like any other TT fuck up

    "reports today that TT took a giant shit on the G in the middle of lambeau"

    packer "reporter", " oh is was a spectacular bowel movement, one of the finest of all time, and it obviously can only help the team going forward. IN TED WE TRUST"

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    only for running backs, not any other position

    around 35 is when most players drop off, NOT 30

    a 30 year old guard is right in the middle of his prime
    ??????? The overwhelming majority of NFL players aren't in the league anymore by 30 let alone 35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/8...oo-long-o-line

    Interesting article from a few years ago. Seems like 30 or so is the starting of the end for OL also.
    article talks about of when the average age of the line is 30 it starts to go down, not when a single member hits 30

    and by doing the math, we have one more solid year before we start to drop off according to the whole theme of the article

    plus theres this from the article

    Guards start wearing down once they get to 32. Letting a guard hang around when he's 34 is stretching it. Centers can go into their mid-30s, but they do risk injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    ??????? The overwhelming majority of NFL players aren't in the league anymore by 30 let alone 35.
    no, the overwhelming majority of packers are not over the age of 30

    and i would guess the big reason why a lot of guys wouldn't be the the nfl by 30 has to do with $$$$$$$$$, not old age

    if you have a 30 year of fringe player that you would have to pay the vet minimum of around a million bucks, your probably gonna replace his with a rookie fringe player who will make a third of that
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    was just hearing this week that the league is going through a trend where all the teams (except new england) are getting younger and younger. cheap, less experienced, makes for poorer quality football. hoodie drops declining older players for plateauing older players (that are cheaper too) and that's why they're in it year after year. the experience factor is the difference on the field.

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    What I loved about that article is that almost EVERY trend mentioned is due to the NFL trying to curb costs.

    1. NCAA feeding ground - why have a minor league? **
    2. Draft younger players - players want to enter League early to get to second contract exacerbated by very limited first contracts (that last a minimum of 4 years, if not five)
    3. Cut expensive vets - while cap has gone up a lot in last two years, cap adjustments now trail actual revenues (and are based on lower percentages of revenues) by a significant margin, something that the last CBA changed.

    https://theringer.com/the-nfl-has-an...5e4#.hy96hd42l


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    ANYBODY LISTEN TO MARCO RIVERA"S TAKE ON JOSH SITTON ??????????/ TO PARAPHRASE..............

    He can understand how this could easily happen. The players in Green Bay need to understand there is no loyalty to anybody except the quarterback there. He went on to note how he came back to the GM when and was very honest and let GB know he loved playing in Green Bay and he wanted to play 2 or 3 more years and retire as a Green Bay Packer...........and was basically pushed out the door and with no interest from Green Bay he went to pay his last couple years with the Dallas Cowboys. He was a bit outspoken....but not angry...but went on to say unless you are Aaron Rodgers you need to understand it's a business w/o loyalthy and as a player you should go for a contract wherever it is. None of this surprised him and he viewed it being about the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    ANYBODY LISTEN TO MARCO RIVERA"S TAKE ON JOSH SITTON ??????????/ TO PARAPHRASE..............

    He can understand how this could easily happen. The players in Green Bay need to understand there is no loyalty to anybody except the quarterback there. He went on to note how he came back to the GM when and was very honest and let GB know he loved playing in Green Bay and he wanted to play 2 or 3 more years and retire as a Green Bay Packer...........and was basically pushed out the door and with no interest from Green Bay he went to pay his last couple years with the Dallas Cowboys. He was a bit outspoken....but not angry...but went on to say unless you are Aaron Rodgers you need to understand it's a business w/o loyalthy and as a player you should go for a contract wherever it is. None of this surprised him and he viewed it being about the money.

    Cold
    Wasn't Rivera the one they tried to keep, since they had to release Wahle anyway and Rivera would be more cost effective?

    I thought he nearly doubled his GB offer with Dallas when a bidding war broke out? I think he is leaving a few key facts out. There is no way the Packers would bring him back on the contract he signed with Dallas.
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    He made it seems like they had no interest in bringing him back
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    You guys, it's gonna be fine. Sitton is on the down slope. Taylor is ascending. The Packers like Taylor.

    We moved on fine without Brett Favre. We'll be OK without Josh Sitton. Especially when Lindsley comes back, we're young and two deep, maybe 3 if you count spriggs, who had a decent enough showing. Give him a couple more months in the weight room and fresh legs and he might hold up if he gets tossed in too.
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    Next year it will probably be Bahktiari-Taylor-Lindsley-Tretter-Bulaga with Spriggs, Murphy and a draft pick and who knows what else coming off the bench. It's time to move on.
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    ^^^Agree! I think their high on Lucas Patrick too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinHarrell View Post
    Next year it will probably be Bahktiari-Taylor-Lindsley-Tretter-Bulaga with Spriggs, Murphy and a draft pick and who knows what else coming off the bench. It's time to move on.
    I think the plan is for Spriggs to play LT. When the Packers drafted Bakhtiari, a lot of people had him projected as a Guard even though he played LT at Colorado. He had to play LT because Bulaga blew out his knee on Family Night. I think the lineup could be Spriggs/Bakhtiari/Linsley or Tretter/Lang/Bulaga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    I think the plan is for Spriggs to play LT. When the Packers drafted Bakhtiari, a lot of people had him projected as a Guard even though he played LT at Colorado. He had to play LT because Bulaga blew out his knee on Family Night. I think the lineup could be Spriggs/Bakhtiari/Linsley or Tretter/Lang/Bulaga.
    That's possible, Joe. Bahk has been a solid NFL LT. That's gonna be hard to beat. I could see Spriggs being the swing tackle for a couple years or taking a spot. Bahk is in his prime starting right now. Let's see what he's got.

    And Bulaga has never been healthy. Spriggs might just be insurance for whichever tackle can't stay healthy.
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    I am tellin' ya... Bahktiari is walking after this season if he isn't the starting left tackle for the foreseeable future. The difference in money between good guards and good tackles is gigantic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    no, the overwhelming majority of packers are not over the age of 30

    and i would guess the big reason why a lot of guys wouldn't be the the nfl by 30 has to do with $$$$$$$$$, not old age

    if you have a 30 year of fringe player that you would have to pay the vet minimum of around a million bucks, your probably gonna replace his with a rookie fringe player who will make a third of that
    around 35 is when most players drop off, NOT 30
    This is factually not true. Most players are out of the league and retired from the NFL by 30.

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    Regarding the age conversation, 7 Packers out of 53 are 30+.

    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    I am tellin' ya... Bahktiari is walking after this season if he isn't the starting left tackle for the foreseeable future. The difference in money between good guards and good tackles is gigantic.
    This is possible. I'm not sure what Bakhtiari's market will be. He's been a starting LT, but I'm not sure if he's considered to be a really good one. I think Spriggs is a more natural LT. One out of Bakhtiari/Tretter/Lang/Bulaga will be gone next year. It could be Bulaga if he has another injury-filled year. I think you could see a couple of guys get contract extensions later this year once the Packers decide which guys they want to go with.

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