All Underrated Team: Three Packer Connections

[pbmax]

This is all-time, not current era. Early warning for KYPack, Patler, Shadow, oldbutnotdeadyet, Fritz and all posters who remember the 1974 Packers. There is some rare John Hadl praise in here (though not specifically for his Packer stint).

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...in-nfl-history

Contains my favorite paragraph of the off-season so far:

No modern coach suppressed passing offenses quite like Fisher, and no team produces offensive stats that look like they come from the early 1930s quite like the Ravens. Derrick Mason's 95-catch, 1,200-yard seasons translate to 115-catch monsters in more pass-oriented schemes. Put him on the Tom Brady-led Patriots, and Mason might have invented a new branch of mathematics.

[Joemailman]

Nice to see Butler get his due. Only a shoulder injury cost him the Hall Of Fame.

One slight disagreement. This is pretty much a Super Bowl-era list, not an all-time list.

[pbmax]

Nice to see Butler get his due. Only a shoulder injury cost him the Hall Of Fame.

One slight disagreement. This is pretty much a Super Bowl-era list, not an all-time list.

Its got some good AFL stuff in there.

Its also 2017. Everyone before the AFL is underrated.

[smuggler]

Anyone who had a good understanding of pre-merger football talent is dead and has probably been dead for 15 years.

[Patler]

Anyone who had a good understanding of pre-merger football talent is dead and has probably been dead for 15 years.

I beg to differ! At least I don't think I am dead!

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I beg to differ! At least I don't think I am dead!

I believe I am dead, but I do remember 1974 Packers! Hell, even the 60's packers, yet I did pedal bike from Minneapolis to Rhinelander last summer so I am truly OLD BUT NOT DEAD YET!

Yippee doo...

[Pugger]

I'm ancient too.

[Patler]

I believe I am dead, but I do remember 1974 Packers! Hell, even the 60's packers, yet I did pedal bike from Minneapolis to Rhinelander last summer so I am truly OLD BUT NOT DEAD YET!

Yippee doo...

I remember when Lombardi was hired, and I try to run at least 100 miles/month; so without claiming the name I guess I am old but not dead yet, too!

[Fritz]

Its got some good AFL stuff in there.

Its also 2017. Everyone before the AFL is underrated.

Where the hell is Bert Jones on that list? He was Brett Favre before there was a Brett Favre.

[Patler]

Where the hell is Bert Jones on that list? He was Brett Favre before there was a Brett Favre.

Bert Jones' career was actually worse than you remember, if you go back and look at it........

[Fritz]

Bert Jones' career was actually worse than you remember, if you go back and look at it........

The Colts had one really good year with Jones at QB; I recall they were coached by Ted Marchibroda (could be wrong) and were, other than that year, pretty dysfunctional. But I remember Jones as having a rocket arm and good accuracy, so don't mess with my memory by going back to actual facts and statistics.

[pbmax]

The Colts had one really good year with Jones at QB; I recall they were coached by Ted Marchibroda (could be wrong) and were, other than that year, pretty dysfunctional. But I remember Jones as having a rocket arm and good accuracy, so don't mess with my memory by going back to actual facts and statistics.

He actually covered the Bert omission:

Mike Tanier @MikeTanier May 29
Several of these guys were on my watch list. I'm also banned from the Internet from writing any more about Bert Jones.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/wal...ory-1981-colts

[Patler]

Bert Jones' career was actually worse than you remember, if you go back and look at it........

The Colts had one really good year with Jones at QB; I recall they were coached by Ted Marchibroda (could be wrong) and were, other than that year, pretty dysfunctional. But I remember Jones as having a rocket arm and good accuracy, so don't mess with my memory by going back to actual facts and statistics.

Naw, wasn't going to do that. Just a play on your Quote of KYP in your signature.

Jones probably didn't play long enough to merit much consideration. He looked like a possible budding star early, but was hurt, traded and out of the league in relatively quick sequence when he should have been just hitting his stride as a QB.

[Patler]

He actually covered the Bert omission:

Mike Tanier @MikeTanier May 29
Several of these guys were on my watch list. I'm also banned from the Internet from writing any more about Bert Jones.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/wal...ory-1981-colts

Guess I should have read farther before responding!

[smuggler]

Yeah I supposed I should have qualified it better. Not just understand of *some* pre-1970 ball, but a good first-hand account of the league for all of the period from 1920 to 1970. Anyone who was ten years old in 1920 is 107 this year. Haha.

[vince]

Good list. Let's hope Jahri Evans is still underrated.

[Fritz]

Yeah I supposed I should have qualified it better. Not just understand of *some* pre-1970 ball, but a good first-hand account of the league for all of the period from 1920 to 1970. Anyone who was ten years old in 1920 is 107 this year. Haha.

Lem Barney was a pretty good cornerback for the Lions for a number of years.

[Patler]

Lem Barney was a pretty good cornerback for the Lions for a number of years.

He's in the NFL Hall of Fame, isn't he?

[bobblehead]

I beg to differ! At least I don't think I am dead!

Shut up, you'll be stone dead in a moment (little monty python humor)

[bobblehead]

Bert Jones' career was actually worse than you remember, if you go back and look at it........

So was Favre's....oh damn, here we go.

We'll never forget you bert!