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    Green & Gold Shades Rat HOFer channtheman's Avatar
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    10/22 New Orleans (3-2)
    10/29 BYE WEEK
    11/6 Detroit (3-3)
    11/12 @Chicago (2-4)
    11/19 Baltimore (3-3)
    11/26 @Pittsburgh (4-2)
    12/3 Tampa Bay (2-3)
    12/10 @Cleveland (0-6)
    12/17 @Carolina (4-2)
    12/23 Minnesota (4-2)
    12/31 @Detroit (3-3)

    Packers remaining schedule.

    I'm assuming Rodgers will be back best case for the week after Cleveland. I see Chicago, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and Cleveland as potential wins. New Orleans, Detroit, and Pittsburgh probably put up too many points against our defense for the stunted offense to have a chance to keep up. We probably win 2 of the potential wins, but since we're living in dreamland best case scenario, lets say we win 3.

    That leaves us at 7-6 with Rodgers returning. Then we have to win @Carolina, Minnesota, and @Detroit. I don't think I'd pick us to win all 3 of those games with Rodgers in the lineup. We might finish 9-7 in a best case scenario. Will that be enough for the playoffs? I guess we'll find out as the season unfolds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    QBs are typically tackled by linemen and LBs. WRs are typically tackled by defensive backs. WR are typically moving faster and aren't usually landed on like QBs standing in the pocket or looking downfield. Even so you may have noticed Packer WR still get hurt with lighter hit than Rodgers took.

    The tackle wasn't all the violent it was just a hard hit with a full body landing on Rodgers with extended arm.

    Of course we wouldn't be making that big of deal if he hadn't got hurt. But every time a QB - or anyone else - takes a hit like that there's a chance for injury.
    I don't think it was an illegal hit but my beef is it was unnecessary. Barr didn't need to tackle him.

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    Will McCoach have a press conference this afternoon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by channtheman View Post
    10/22 New Orleans (3-2)
    10/29 BYE WEEK
    11/6 Detroit (3-3)
    11/12 @Chicago (2-4)
    11/19 Baltimore (3-3)
    11/26 @Pittsburgh (4-2)
    12/3 Tampa Bay (2-3)
    12/10 @Cleveland (0-6)
    12/17 @Carolina (4-2)
    12/23 Minnesota (4-2)
    12/31 @Detroit (3-3)

    Packers remaining schedule.

    I'm assuming Rodgers will be back best case for the week after Cleveland. I see Chicago, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and Cleveland as potential wins. New Orleans, Detroit, and Pittsburgh probably put up too many points against our defense for the stunted offense to have a chance to keep up. We probably win 2 of the potential wins, but since we're living in dreamland best case scenario, lets say we win 3.

    That leaves us at 7-6 with Rodgers returning. Then we have to win @Carolina, Minnesota, and @Detroit. I don't think I'd pick us to win all 3 of those games with Rodgers in the lineup. We might finish 9-7 in a best case scenario. Will that be enough for the playoffs? I guess we'll find out as the season unfolds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    I don't think it was an illegal hit but my beef is it was unnecessary. Barr didn't need to tackle him.
    His job is to tackle the QB - hard. He has to sense when it is too late, and he made the right choice.

    Of course on every play when the ball is gone there is no "need" to tackle the QB. But a defender is not supposed to turn off/on instantly.

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    I don't think it has even been reported yet what kind of fracture Rodgers has. If it needs surgery then his season is over, end of conversation. If no surgery then there is still the uncertainty about it being on this throwing side, which might mean rehabbing the arm and might require longer healing process for the bone. I think it's a good thing that the team has introduced the specter that this will be season ending, and they should leave it at that. If GB is still competitive and Rodgers is able to come back in late December it will be a pleasant surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosier View Post
    I think it's a good thing that the team has introduced the specter that this will be season ending, and they should leave it at that. If GB is still competitive and Rodgers is able to come back in late December it will be a pleasant surprise.
    quoted for truthiness. but I thought a "specter" is a ghost. I'll look it up.

    edit: also "something widely feared as a possible unpleasant or dangerous occurrence." ya, guess I knew that.

  9. #89
    Callahan is on the roster with a newly redone contract and Quinten Rollins is on IR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    I don't think it was an illegal hit but my beef is it was unnecessary. Barr didn't need to tackle him.
    Agreed. The only reason to hit a QB who has already thrown a ball is to hurt him. It's time for the Packers to start hitting people back like that. Old school baseball rules.
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    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    Agreed. The only reason to hit a QB who has already thrown a ball is to hurt him. It's time for the Packers to start hitting people back like that. Old school baseball rules.
    It was a brilliant move. If you can KO arguably the best player in the league and not even get a penalty, you're money. Probably the best tackle Barr will ever make. Packer should train their defense off that video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    Agreed. The only reason to hit a QB who has already thrown a ball is to hurt him. It's time for the Packers to start hitting people back like that. Old school baseball rules.
    Yup, Barr was going for the kill shot. Taking out #12 now has improved their chances to win the division. Don't be surprised if our defenders get a little more aggressive the next time we play MN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    The only reason to hit a QB who has already thrown a ball is to hurt him.
    No, the goal is to keep the QB nervous and his feet happy. Pressure. If you shake him up- good. But the idea is not to break his collar bone, that is just a delightful possibility.

    I remember in high school football, when we played an option team, the defensive end was instructed to tackle the QB hard every play, whether he pitched the ball or not. The goal was to wear the QB down, as well as remove one option. Idea is not to create an injury. (OK, maybe 1970s high school football is a little different than 2017 NFL.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    No, the goal is to keep the QB nervous and his feet happy. Pressure. If you shake him up- good. But the idea is not to break his collar bone, that is just a delightful possibility.

    I remember in high school football, when we played an option team, the defensive end was instructed to tackle the QB hard every play, whether he pitched the ball or not. The goal was to wear the QB down, as well as remove one option. Idea is not to create an injury. (OK, maybe 1970s high school football is a little different than 2017 NFL.)
    I feel like you are artificially increasing the distance between causing fear/nervousness and causing injury in your explication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Quinten Rollins is on IR.
    Iredeemable recruits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I feel like you are artificially increasing the distance between causing fear/nervousness and causing injury in your explication.
    What is the point of any hard tackling in football?

    It's a game of emotion and aggression and domination, snowflake.

    you want to rattle the opponent, make them hesitant.

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    If anybody else is still confused, we can step outside and have a demonstration.

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    I support all the new rules to protect players in both the NFL and College. I expect both games will become less violent/dangerous, and that is an inevitable and good thing. I'd like to see NFL adopt college rule on targeting. But within the rules, it is still a rough game, and defensive backs in college are still smacking receivers hard. QBs still taking hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    What is the point of any hard tackling in football?

    It's a game of emotion and aggression and domination, snowflake.

    you want to rattle the opponent, make them hesitant.
    Of course, but that renders the space between fear/intimidation and trying to hurt them very small. Saying players aren't trying to hurt them is not true.

    Most are probably not trying to end their year though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Most are probably not trying to end their year though.
    But that is a delightful possibility.
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